@matrix
I hate you.
@agnumasalis
>or they think people are too dumb to understand?
Yes. Because most people are either dumb (after all, half of all humans are by definition below average IQ) or are just ignorant about the medical field (which is completely fine, not everyone can be an expert in everything).
>"Only really makes sense" goes against what the WHO & other 'experts' have & are still doing eg recent Brazil Zika case.
The situation your citing is quite different though. And it's not like WHO intentionally went to try to create a herd immunity situation by normal infection. They even mention that (at the time of writing) a vaccine hadn't been finished yet. So it's not like this local herd immunity they discovered was part of anyone's plan. They probably didn't expect it, but they seemed thankful this was something that developed.
As for the chicken pox parties. Americans have been doing those for decades, and although you become immune for life once you've had it, somehow the virus hasn't been eliminated from the population. Doesn't that hint that herd immunity via exposure is not a reliable thing? Same goes for all childhood diseases. How come non-vaccination herd immunity hasn't wiped them out of existence?
@colonelj
Oh, I don't know, maybe someone who reads books.
@echo @ChristiJunior @p @galena
I'll go one step further. I think it does work for them, it just doesn't work in mostly "unwoke" spaces like the fediverse. Clearly there are mainstream spaces where their rhetoric works, considering Salon agreed to publish that stuff in the first place.
@nonetrix @wzqtparor@mstdn.io
Kawaii! Arigato gozaimasu!
@agnumasalis
Because herd immunity only really makes any sense to talk about when you're doing vaccinations.
While you get immunity after having been infected with a disease, actually developing herd immunity only through natural infections is nigh impossible. And it's also not really desirable to aim for herd immunity through normal infections. Think about polio for instance. Most of the time it's much too high a risk to attempt this tactic. Vaccines are much safer by comparison.
While I can't say that I agree with how they tried to eliminated the concept of gaining immunity from surviving an infectious disease, the new version of the article is still far more useful, more accurate, and better at explaining how things work.
Besides, I would argue that "Vaccines train our immune systems to create proteins that fight disease, known as ‘antibodies’, just as would happen when we are exposed to a disease" still implies that even being infected and recovering adds you to the herd immunity pool.
P.S. That's also not really a definition for herd immunity per say. It's a short article meant for laymen people, so they get a general understanding of the concept.
@nonetrix @wzqtparor@mstdn.io
I'd like a closer look at that wallpaper...
@Jdogg247
Best Christmas present I've ever got. Why are you complaining?
@wishgranter14
sudo pacman -Syu
@colonelj
What?! That's actually a good comparison.
I have to admit, if white Americans decided to start some sort of race war over this, I don't think I could honestly object. Things have gotten too far.
I also can no longer blame Americans that distrust the CDC. This is the second major mistake their health officials made this year imo (first one being telling people not to wear masks as to ensure doctors had enough of them).
@Terry
They're good at making money?
@leyonhjelm
Slight note: in old communist Romania, we had the same Old Man Frost (Moș Gerilă) as Russia.
@shadowferret @lottev
I must be the slowest, cause I didn't even consider there could be some deeper significance between the name and their logo.
@Terry
TBH, can't say I understand what this universal "despicable behavior" is supposed to be.
なんで君はこれを読んでいるかよ
Just another random person passing by.
Oh hi.
The Alyx Vance must go this way anyway.
Gordon Freeman dies in All Dogs Go To Heaven 2.
I wasn't designed to be carried.
En Taro Igel!
Lift me up, let me go...