@applejack @matrix
Ok I'll bite

1. you create a market around content by consuming it, if you didn't create it yourself. This makes market forces work for creation of new content, i.e. more kids being abused in the case of cp.
2. if on the other hand you created it yourself you're a pedophile and already a criminal so other people watching your videos is rather secondary to you being behind bars
3. sweatshops and sweaters. You can chose at the best of your ability to not use sweatshop products. You can even go without non-essentials if you find no ethical alternatives. For stuff like food/clothes, you just select the lesser evil. It is ethical to try. It is *less* ethical to NOT try when you know about the sweatshops, using an excuse that you're not yourself personally running the sweatshop. You're funding those who run it indirectly.
4. Watching a video of anything is rarely done in secret. Therefore your circle is influenced. This could include secret pedos still in control, this pushing them to act, using your "tastes" and "approval" as an excuse.
5. Even if you do watch it in secret, you're feeding these behaviours in yourself. You are molding your taste to this content, even by a small degree. You are degenerating, becoming less, de-evolving. Especially if you're not watching it out of spite for "free speech" or an ethical standpoint. Which would be idiotic anyways, you could "rebel" by watching other "banned" content (such as wikileaks stuff).

@Corfiot @matrix

Consuming it doesn't make a market. They don't have adverts and it's generally not payed

Being a pedophile isn't illegal. It's not even officially considered a disorder inherently

Yeah, and you can fap to child porn where nobody is harmed. 8yo films herself naked, 10 years later of her own free will uploads it online and someone else faps to it

I feel like "illegal activity is rarely done in secret" needs a citation

Last point is fair. It's less moral reasoning and more "it's unhealthy so it's bad". Porn in general is unhealthy, but CP isn't a special case inherently

@applejack @matrix The amount of mental gymnastics is amazing. You must be well fit. Good luck on your travels

@Corfiot @matrix Couldn't have done it without your excellent projection :tanya_yes:

@corfiot @applejack @matrix
>1. you create a market around content by consuming it, if you didn't create it yourself. This makes market forces work for creation of new content, i.e. more kids being abused in the case of cp.
I'd imagine that most of the material in question is non-commercial in nature. Someone recording themself fucking their kid isn't doing so because they're going to make money doing it. They're doing it because they enjoy fucking their kid and are dumb enough to create evidence that they did so. Removing the camera from the equation isn't going to keep that kid from getting fucked. It'll simply reduce the likelihood of the kid-fucker getting caught and convicted.

In the event that there is CP being produced commercially, well, decades of propaganda has taught us that pirating media harms producers and prevents them from making more content. If the MPAA and RIAA are to believed, then logic would suggest that pirating CP is your moral duty if you're opposed to CP.
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