Dr. Sex
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applejack

@shitgrifter "You believe X, so do Y to be consistent" is completely valid irregardless of what the libtard thinks

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Dr. Sex
@applejack this is incredibly reductive, for example, I don't strictly believe in X, there are other options other than Y, and following X strictly to the conclusion of Y may violate another principle, Z, or may inadvertently lead to outcomes that run counter to X. It's simply dumb to look at it as a strictly black and white scenario where only X and Y exist with no other context or externalities.
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applejack

@shitgrifter The meme doesn't mention externalities or context, it implies the argument is wrong because the libtard doesn't believe it himself

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AR-15
@applejack @shitgrifter That makes it a bad faith argument and therefore wrong.
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applejack

@AR-15 @shitgrifter That's not in any way true and you know it. You have your own brain, you can look at whether the point is valid or not, regardless of what the libtard's motives are

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AR-15
@applejack @shitgrifter Yes it is true retard. Someone who has no principles and only sees them as a weakness to exploit has no business telling me how to act to live out mine. Even more so when their sole purpose in life is to kill me and rape my children.

I will now tap the sign.
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applejack
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@AR-15 @shitgrifter Refusing to reflect on a legitimate point from an enemy just makes you weaker. The other stuff I don't disagree with

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AR-15
@applejack @shitgrifter Enemies by definition don't have legitimate points.
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AR-15
@applejack @shitgrifter If their points were legitimate and compelling, they'd join my side.
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applejack

@AR-15 @shitgrifter The original version of the meme was "jesus said a bunch of hippy shit, so if you follow jesus you should believe it", which is legitimate and compelling

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AR-15
@applejack @shitgrifter It's clearly not, because the people saying it don't follow Jesus. If they aren't compelled by their own argument then why should I be.
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Dr. Sex
@AR-15 @applejack this, there's absolutely no reason to be compelled to engage arguments that don't even convince the people who make them
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DrRyanSkelton
@shitgrifter @AR-15 @applejack Very few people are convinced by precise arguments and logic. Rhetoric is far more important than dialectic. You cannot use dialectic to counter a rhetorical argument and you will lose every time you try.

tl;dr: If the enemy comes at you with wordplay and trickery you don't refute it you call them a lying nigger and draw them as soyjak. Easy.
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:njp: Behind the Crooked Cross :njp:
@applejack @AR-15 @shitgrifter The libtard in that meme does not even believe that jesus actually said that hippie shit or that he meant what the libtard said he meant, it is not compelling
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Victor_Emmanuel 🇻🇦
@applejack @AR-15 @shitgrifter 1) Jesus called the Jews who refused to follow him the spawn of Satan and to kill pedophiles, so by no means was Jesus a hippy
2) NATO does not operate on nationalist principles and in fact actively works to undermine nationalism so Russia destroying/weakening NATO is a good thing for nationalists.
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🐍SNEK🐍
@applejack @AR-15 @shitgrifter No
It isn't
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Chineseman. High level unhinged.
@AR-15 @applejack @shitgrifter youtube.com/watch?v=wlgN3gM6ZVc
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Mithril_Noble
@AR-15 @applejack @shitgrifter Napoleon was /retardpilled/, knew of the seductive shortcomings of words.
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Dr. Sex
@applejack @AR-15 definitionally insencere points are not legitimate, if anything it makes you look weaker when they turned your principles on their head to get you doing what they want. It's fucking stupid.
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:njp: Behind the Crooked Cross :njp:
@applejack @AR-15 @shitgrifter No, refusing to call out a liar for acting in complete bad faith makes you look weak
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