Why is communism/socialism always associated with totalitarianism/authoritarianism? Are they inevitably tied? Why?

@nina The communist comes to your home and demands you share the space with the commune. You say no. What does the communist do?

@matrix @nina the anarchist demands the state dissolve, what does the anarchist do?

none of these ideologies are going to save anyone from demands and force

@opal @nina the overthrowing of the state can in some cases be argued as a form of self defense, however the overthrowing of a state will probably lead to a creation of a worse one

For the anarcho communist the state is oppressive because it protects others from their oppression.

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@matrix @opal @nina For the anarcho communist the state is oppressive because they have retarded conceptions of humans and reality

All problems and issues are friction between the bourg and the prots and the state only exists in order to put a bandaid on the problem. In their mind once you remove the bourgs, state, hierarchy, and money, there's nothing left but peace and happiness

This is genuine unironic communist theory

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>once you remove the bourgs, state, hierarchy, and money, there's nothing left but peace and happiness
removal of the state is an indicator that humanity is finally adult enough to work together and stop infighting about fucking everything. i'm all for that, hierarchy is inherent but there is no way that our current hierarchy is necessary or even helpful to most of us. at worst maybe youre unaffected by it, but i doubt its directly helping you unless you work for the government directly.
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