@miria @matrix First, me and matrix talked about how it's measured from birth and correlates with prenatal testosterone, but, no, I don't need to prove anything. I have a very well tested theory that when applies here predicts everything perfectly without any extra assumptions needed, but you want to say that's not true, so you need to explain how that is and why you should assume it. This is like a god-of-the-gaps type meme
@miria @matrix It literally is. Boys from birth are more interested in mechanical objects and girls are more interested in people, and this correlates with how much prenatal testosterone they were exposed to.
You even have girls playing with dolls (because they instinctively want to be mothers) as an almost cultural universal historically, while boys are more likely to play with something else like beating eachother up with sticks
There is no evolutionary state where a boy and a girl having an interest in the same thing makes equal sense, so there is no possible state for any kind of blank slate. Even with the shitty "measurements" psychology everything is still largely genetic
@opal weirdo
@incel_lolbert @josh @hansbratwurst@paypig.org @Donald_McRonald @Orangmawas @RoyalJohnny242 Society is made up of individuals and individuals are part of a society. Individuals and collectives both matter because they obviously depend on eachother.
You maximise individual wellbeing by maximising collective wellbeing.
To kneejerk against this fact because "muh arbitrary ideal" is just retarded
@Sudononymous @wowaname @matrix @mactonite@neckbeard.xyz Another example would be: "a woman doesn't know she'll be happier as a wife and mother than whoring around or working, but won't know it until her best years are spent", which is why it was historically common for people to marry them off young
@Sudononymous @matrix @mactonite@neckbeard.xyz
It's a bonding act where if you cum inside you get preggers. It really isn't hard to understand.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190401193459/https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/2013/10/06/a-less-impaired-vision-of-sexuality/
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J151v01n03_02
“Assessing competency to consent to sexual activity in the cognitively impaired population”, by a certain Carrie Hill Kennedy. A “Sexual Consent and Education Assessment” instrument was used, with two dimensions, “sexual knowledge” and “safety practices”, indicating the ability to make safe decisions. Those judged competent had, on average, an IQ of 65 and an adaptive behaviour age of 9.4 years. Those judged incompetent had average IQ 46 and adaptive behaviour age 6.7 years. This would suggest, at an intermediate position, that competence is achieved at around 8.2 years, and IQ 55.
Morality is relative. Which is why you think child marriage is immoral while history universally disagrees
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J056v16n02_03
The rest of it is just vague unprovable garbage. You can tell them anything you want, and they can fully understand it but they lack this nebulous "experience". If it has an actual effect, then you can actually show it, instead of you just arbitrarily picking what's "informed" or not. Why should you need to be 18? Why not 25 or 16? What do you actually have in reality?
Another thing is that you're trying to hold the positions that "they need to have 'informed' consent" but also that you can force them to do anything you want for their own good, but also that they aren't allowed to consent. "Consent matters, so they are not allowed to say yes" is logically contradictory. But also made useless since you think you can force them into anything for their own good anyway.
@Sudononymous @matrix @mactonite@neckbeard.xyz Any time a study accounts for consent and incest they don't find harm
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9670820/
However, this poorer adjustment could not be attributed to CSA because family environment (FE) was consistently confounded with CSA, FE explained considerably more adjustment variance than CSA, and CSA-adjustment relations generally became nonsignificant when studies controlled for FE. Self-reported reactions to and effects from CSA indicated that negative effects were neither pervasive nor typically intense, and that men reacted much less negatively than women. The college data were completely consistent with data from national samples. Basic beliefs about CSA in the general population were not supported.
@kakol @matrix https://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/14/bible-child-marriage-in-ancient-israelite-times-paedophilia/
God says little girls are sexy
@josh
>The average age a woman got married in the 1800s was 26. The first child was 28.
That's just obviously wrong and the graph you posted doesn't even remotely imply that, but the opposite.
In the latest of the late 1800s women got married at 22.
https://www.thespruce.com/estimated-median-age-marriage-2303878 (and this is with the fact that historians are averse to counting very young marriages)
Further back it was even lower. For most of history (which is what we biologically evolved for) women had their first child at 16.
https://womenofhistory.blogspot.com/2007/08/medieval-marriage-childbirth.html
Younger is better. Everyone knows it.
@HotPolishTakes https://jewishcontributions.com/infotables/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psy-Group
https://archive.vn/l2KU6
Multiethnic Placement Act. Senator Howard Metzenbaum
Nathan Abrams on Jews in the American porn industry
https://archive.vn/vLNPK
http://ihr.org/other/biden_jewish_role
"The Jews are all over the government," Nixon complained to his chief of staff, H.R. "Bob" Haldeman, in an Oval Office meeting recorded on one of a set of White House tapes released yesterday at the National Archives. Nixon said the Jews needed to be brought under control by putting someone "in charge who is not Jewish" in key agencies.
"But, Bob, generally speaking, you can't trust the bastards. They turn on you. Am I wrong or right?"
Haldeman agreed wholeheartedly. "Their whole orientation is against you. In this administration, anyway. And they are smart. They have the ability to do what they want to do--which is to hurt us."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/oct99/nixon6.htm
@HotPolishTakes The "jews control everything in a single coordinated way" angle is harder to push and sounds wacky, but go with "they as individuals have immense power, use it for their own benefit as a group because of strong in-group preference, are very willing to go against the interests of other groups, oust anyone that calls them out in any way, and there's no reason to tolerate them having power over us" which is all undeniable, you'll figure out on your own its all coordinated
https://archive.vn/HlGeY
In the first half of the 1960s, the Foreign Ministry continued to examine plans to encourage the emigration of Arab refugees from the Middle East to Europe, particularly to France and Germany. One option that was considered was to find them jobs in Germany, which was then in dire need of working hands. During 1962, Israeli officials examined the possibility of finding employment for Palestinian refugee laborers in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. The initial checks done for this plan, known as “Operation Worker,” and the correspondence involved, were kept completely under wraps. But both Foreign Minister Meir and her director general, Yahil, objected to these ideas. Meir was concerned that Germany would be flooded with Arab refugees, and, in any event, the whole scheme proved fruitless.
@vaas@pawoo.net Leftists are horrible at anything creative because their entire thing is worshipping weakness, degeneracy, and sin.
They're also always motivated by selfish moralism than anything higher, so it's always selfserving.
The problem is they're the only one's allowed to be promoted, so it's the only thing you see.
https://unabombermanifesto.com/#THE%20PSYCHOLOGY%20OF%20MODERN%20LEFTISM