@Natanahel @10grans People married their 13yo cousins in the 1950s and nobody had a problem with it
@sapphire @matrix @heidegger14 @ArdanianRight With none of the benefits. Yeah, thanks. This is a fake and gay canard to begin with. This isn't about any individual person, but society. It's akin to someone saying "just make your own society without X" any time you say there's a problem. Libertarians are especially told this.
@dailyslurbot It's also leaving out that they did that because they hate Christ.
Same with this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign
@sapphire @matrix @heidegger14 @ArdanianRight Remember that Ted actually did live in the woods. Large part of the reason he did what he did at all was because they kept encroaching on him being able to do it at all.
@josh I appreciate you verifying it. I'm generally the only one that does it too
@matrix @ArdanianRight @heidegger14 That's physics, those are limitations we evolved to handle and master.
Libertarians get that freedom is necessary for happiness, but they put an arbitrarily narrow view on it as "just not coercion". There's no psychological distinction between coercion and being unable to feed yourself, not working both means you get punished and ultimately die.
Modern jobs are basically just instruction following instead of actual physical work. Show up at this time, stand here, do this in this way for 8 hours, go home. It's a complete lack of control
@sapphire @matrix @heidegger14 @ArdanianRight It's literally illegal to not be connected to the grid in most places in Europe. It's de facto illegal everywhere to not earn money since you need to pay constant taxes on anything you own.
@galena @heidegger14 @matrix @ArdanianRight The snippets still make very good points, but every right winger should read the whole thing, yes
@ArdanianRight @matrix @heidegger14 @bungabeats Power has a tendency to centralise whatever you do. Look at the 80/20 rule and the fact that power lets you shape things so you have more of it.
The best thing you can really do is have someone in charge that has your interests at heart.
Democracy has an inherently bad selection process that favours corruption, shortsightedness, and lets you blame problems on someone else instead of there being a clear person in charge who has responsibility.
If you have a monarch, the worst he can do is be another politician, the best thing he can do is have your actual interests at heart, and if he does, genetic descent means his son probably will too.
@bungabeats @ArdanianRight @matrix @amerika @heidegger14 It doesn't need to kill gays, but it does need to put the needs of the majority above minorities. Tolerating a mental illness with a bucket list of problems (such as being effectively infertile, being so impulsive you have a 20-30 shorter lifespan, and being many many many times more likely to be child rapists and serial killers), is obviously degenerate to society.
@bungabeats @ArdanianRight @matrix @heidegger14 Any and every ideology has points at which you need to make a line in a gradient. Pretending it's some unique problem here is just being retarded.
It's not about hating other groups, it's about loving your own above others.
A 1:1 parallel (it's infact the same thing on a different scale) would be "How can you hate every family but your own? You should love them all equally. Where do you draw the line of who is and isn't your family?"
@ArdanianRight @matrix @heidegger14 @bungabeats That's what "third way"ism and the like are about. You're allowed to own a business, own private property, all that, you're just not allowed to be a megacorp that shapes society or to work against it's interests
@ArdanianRight @matrix @heidegger14 Medieval peasants ate healthier, worked less, slept more, had more meaningful work, had more freedom, were healthier, had actual communities, and chances are good they were happier.
The hedonism of wealth is like running on a treadmill. People weren't bored before TVs existed, but today people can't even watch it without being bored and needing to look at their phones. They work more to get less. You need more and more "education" to earn a living wage.
Utilities, medicine, all of it, create dysgenics that lead to their own collapse. You're reliant on a giant system operated by people who hate you and you have no control in or say over.
@wysteria2 You're either sexually attracted to this girl, a homosexual, or a woman.
There is no fourth option
@RikaDerufu Subjective types are funny. Tell them that your subjective reality is objective in your subjective view and they should stop imposing theirs on you. It's self defeating
@matrix You can just call it margherita pizza