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@CentaurBreeder @professionalbigot69 clarification: my mental illness is untreated because the "treatment" only made it worse and just figuring things out myself has done a lot more for me. Fuck meds and therapists.
Bitches would rather have a downtrodden man in therapy than a content man with a couple screws loose. If you need therapy, that's more of a red flag imo. Got some shit to work out before getting in a relationship.

@beardalaxy @beardalaxy @professionalbigot69

>my mental illness is untreated because the "treatment" only made it worse and just figuring things out myself has done a lot more for me.

you poor soul. sounds like there "Treatments" never fucking work.

>Fuck meds and therapists.

unbelievably true.

>Bitches would rather have a downtrodden man in therapy than a content man with a couple screws loose.

women are too trusting of these easy solutions. instead of taking the required time to work on themselves. they want something that promises instant gratification. this is why meds are so alluring, they think "I can just take this pill and be happy? why not then" but they never think of what comes after taking the pill. its not just women but its a majority of women who face this problem.

>If you need therapy, that's more of a red flag imo.

very true. therapy often doesnt work. it will only work for people who force themselves to believe it will.

>Got some shit to work out before getting in a relationship.

you'll get there man. just keep up the good work

@CentaurBreeder @professionalbigot69 with that last bit I was more referring to people that are in therapy, they probably shouldn't get in a relationship until they don't need it anymore. But of course, therapy/meds aren't necessarily designed to make you better, just to trick yourself into thinking you are, even though you're still dependant on someone or a substance. That can work for some people to spring off of, but in my experience that's not typical.

@CentaurBreeder @professionalbigot69 and my whole thing with therapy is that rather than tricking myself into thinking it will work, why not spend that willpower on just getting better on my own terms? Focus it somewhere else instead of trusting some dude or chick to do it for me. I think therapy should mainly focus on people becoming self sufficient. It's like how a lot "learning" is being taught what to think, not how to think.

Stuff like meds should only be used in extreme circumstances and are waaaaaay over prescribed. My best friend is actually a pharmacist and was telling me the other day he kind of hates that he took the classes, in a way, because he knows now how the medical field and big pharma work and he hates it. In school they are taught to diagnose, recommend lifestyle changes, and then prescribe medicine, but most doctors skip the middle part entirely or prescribe at the same time.

sounds like you can't relinquish control
possibly trust issues?
therapy is not supposed to control you, anyway. Nor is the therapist supposed to do the work for you. It's just someone trained to keep you on track to what you want. At least for average situations, dunno what your mental health issues are

@Corfiot @CentaurBreeder @professionalbigot69 I do prefer to be the captain of my soul. I haven't had good experiences with therapy or drugs, ever. The therapists never really seemed to actually understand me and prescribed drugs that messed me up further. My siblings had similar issues. It's probably better to find someone like a mentor if you can't fix your life, whereas a therapist is probably better off as being just a person you talk to in order to vent and get things off your chest if you have no other way to do it.

At some point, I unpacked everything and grew enough of a spine to do something about it and the fake people in my life hated that, saw me as a threat, and tried to denigrate me. Had I just stayed in therapy I probably would have an heroed because I can only handle so much cognitive dissonance.

I think therapy may help people remain calm and stop getting stressed out about stuff or whatever, which can be helpful for sure, but I don't see it as getting down to the ROOTS of things. That's something only you can do... So I feel like therapy should perhaps focus on teaching someone how to do that and it really doesn't... It makes sense though, because sometimes the roots go deep and ripping them out will cause a lot of discomfort and drama. You're walking on eggshells at that point.

For 19 years I was manipulated to the point that it became learned behavior and I got really good at doing it to others, so yeah I'm not a huge fan of someone who doesn't really know me trying to act like they're my friend and try to tell me what they think is best for me. I know myself very well and I don't see me loving to have control over myself as a bad thing when do many people lack that and need somebody to tell them how to act or what to believe, because they were never taught how to think, just what to think.

Also there's just the point that there isn't anything I need therapy for. Like, I'd go to a therapist and I've got problems for sure, but I'm not distressed over anything. They would wonder why I was even there. A lot of people think that therapy "fixes" you but it really doesn't.

Therapy may also be better when it comes to problems that need to be solved, where a 3rd party with no stake in the matter can offer circumstantial advice (like a marriage/family counselor), rather than actual mental issues. Again, I'd think a mentor is probably better for that, and way more likely to help with lifestyle instead of piling on drugs.

Maybe it's possible that what I was dealing with just wasn't possible for therapy to do anything about and I HAD to face it myself. I know therapy seems to help some people, but I'm skeptical of its actual merit in regards to *really* making people better instead of making them complacent. There's a lot of that in society as-is, where band-aid solutions are preferred to dealing with harsh truths (for example, transgender individuals. just take hormones and you'll be happy!).