@hfaust only a problem for turbo normies, it's super easy to remove this shit.

@beardalaxy @hfaust yeah but is it even worth it when the so-called normie OS on top of costing money will also show you ads and will require a similar amount of configuration to arch linux or some shit?
like at this point out of the more popular choices you have to choose between:
macos: overpriced toddler unix with spyware
windows: ads and spyware that you pay for and have to remove it manually if you don't want it (or use a build made by people you don't know and have to blindly trust)
linux: volatile and requires lurking to fix shit, spyware optional

@lina @hfaust with how volatile linux is i like using windows way more, but since i know how to actually use it, it isn't so bad. when i help out people with their PCs though i'm always cringing at the default windows setup lol.

mac just doesn't speak to me, maybe it is just how often we had to use it as school with only one mouse button.

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@lina @hfaust i've also paid for windows 8 (that upgraded to 10) with the first PC that i got, so whenever it doesn't activate for some reason at this point i just pirate it. sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't, no idea why.

i'm assuming most people either get windows with their purchase, get it through a key reseller for cheaper, or they pirate it. i can't imagine many people actually buy windows at full price. even businesses and such buy them in bulk and get big discounts. but that's why there are ads for other microsoft products embedded within windows in the first place. not a problem if you know how to get rid of them, which only takes a little bit.

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