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have you guys heard about the fucking oklahoma high school where the kids were licking peanut butter off of adults' feet for a fundraiser????
all the adults involved should be aaron bushnell'd. what kind of world do we live in where this is even the slightest bit okay??? where nobody thought for a split second "oh, this isn't good guys, maybe we shouldn't do this." everyone who knew about this is 100% complicit in not trying to stop it.
their only answer was "oh the kids volunteered to do it" yeah, i'm sure the kids you abused also volunteered to have sex with you right??? fucking hell.
you can look it up yourself, i don't really want to post pictures/videos of it. it's fucked up.
you know what we did for fundraisers in high school? music shows. dance competitions. maybe some incentives for teachers to get their armpits waxed or something. licking peanut butter off of their toes? what the fuck???
Almost every teacher I've met and known through my brothers, nephews and nieces has been a wonderful person. Teachers are nice in general and thinking about what's best for the children. Most of the school system issues I have are strictly management/government related (not enough funding, big class sizes, increased self-studying etc). If ordinary teachers would be in charge the school systems would look completely different (and imo for the better).
However! Home schooling can be an option if done properly. Especially for young children home schooling is usually a better way to actually learn stuff rather than get distracted. The issues with home schooling become apparent at later years when kids are supposed to compete in multiple classes/subjects to reach the college/university/career they want. There is no way home schooling can properly give them the knowledge needed for that (unless you are a super rich and hire a whole school of teachers).
Also socializing is a important part of growing up. Home schooled children should still attend hobbies with different people regularly. Without socializing they could end up having skewed world views and become unsocial shut-ins.
@susie i agree that kids definitely shouldn't be 100% sheltered or anything like that.
but crap like this is always coming out about schools and it makes you wonder how much of it isn't exposed. the propaganda in schools is just the tip of the iceberg it seems and that alone is enough for me to want to keep my kids far away. a private school near me has a strict dress code but legitimately lets kids come to school dressing in fursuits if it is their "identity."
the actual best teachers i had, which i started to learn closer to the end of high school, were always the ones who were strait-laced and knew their job was to teach. one of my favorite teachers in middle school, and a lot of kids' favorite, kidnapped a girl in 2020. stowed her in a rubber maid in his classroom for hours. apparently he had complaints levied against him to the school by parents for inappropriate contact with their children for years.
i already didn't trust the school system to teach my kids the things they need to know in a way that would be the most beneficial for them, the learning environment is very good to begin with, but these days it definitely feels like schools have sunk even further.
i found out rather recently that just before the columbine shooting happened, there were complaints of a class being taught about death and how to embrace it, that dying wasn't so bad because after death you're no longer in pain and all of that. it made a lot of the kids there suicidal. makes you wonder. and that was back in the 90s.
As for private schools; I and my big brother were in a Steiner school and we turned out okay (he probably more than me, since being a family man with a good paying job lol). I don't think you have any of those schools in the US? Basically they are more artsy fartsy schools with little homework and teaching happens from the teacher in front of the class and not text books (we made our own text books from the stuff the teachers read to us, wrote on the blackboard and we also made our own pictures and graphs etc). My big brother also enrolled his kids to the same school after comparing schools and they're having a blast. My little brother on the other hand was in a "normal" school and constantly stressed about homework and stuff to the point he'd basically give up or get angry on the regular. But he's a bit "special" so not a fair comparison.
We also don't have that much religion stuffed down our throats, so the talk about death and such themes are mostly just biology class stuff. Of course we do have religion for those who choose to believe in stuff. But even those are mostly about church history, remembering some stories from the bible and general "teachings" like what is right and wrong etc. (I was enrolled to religion classes, because "everyone" was doing it and I didn't want to feel left out even when being a non-believer. Most of the stuff were just stories and history and church art rather than telling us we will go to heaven or hell lol).
@susie dress code isn't public school, it's private school.
i don't live in finland so i don't know, but at least in the US it is in a pretty dire state. it has gotten to the point where like half of the high schoolers i know are graduating or have graduated early because they're so sick of it. the public school system has never been great, but it feels antagonistic at this point to anyone who is actually there to learn.
the teachers aren't just left-leaning. they certainly were mostly left-leaning when i was in school, but these days it is full-on wacky stuff like having BLM and pride flags displayed in the classroom and in the hallways, coming down really hard on kids who don't like that kind of stuff, etc. hell, even when i was in high school i got shadowbanned from my articles appearing in the newspaper simply for saying that someone from the drama club who was trans should try to work on their mental health. on facebook, not even in school. the teacher came down on me and was like "i don't want to hear any of that rhetoric in my classroom." okay bitch, i wasn't going to say anything in your classroom anyway because, i don't know, writing articles for the school paper has nothing to do with that?
then you have this whole thing of "egg cracking" where teachers try and find kids who may be trans and try to get them to start transitioning behind their parents' backs. there's a subreddit called r/TransTeachers where they more or less talk about this kind of shit all the time and it has been privated since people found out about it.
even on the r/Teachers sub, they are talking about shit like this. it is 100% out of control at this point and sending your child to public school in the US guarantees that they will be exposed to attempted brainwashing one way or another.
As to that reddit post: Complimenting kids on their dresses or hairstyle etc sounds weird and gross to me, no matter what gender they identify with. Teachers are for teaching, not for flirting.
As for long hair on boys and makeup... I'm born in the 90s and that certainly was a normal thing for (emo, goth or heavy music fan) boys to do. Heck, it was a fun thing to do with one of our classmates to convince the substitute teachers that he was a girl. But that was just a fun thing to prank the teachers with (he was not really trans). However if the teachers would do that shit: "oh you look so pretty, you must be a girl" it sounds like an insult or grooming to my ears.
I don't get why pronouns (we don't have gender specific pronouns in Finnish to begin with) and trans stuff is such a big issue personally. If the kid really wants to, they can be trans as far as I'm concerned. However the choice should come from the kid, not the parents nor the teachers. And even then it should be treated as a "phase" and not force the kid to do anything that would make them impossible to end the phase if it turns out to be one. Sure, wear cute stuff and grow out your hair if you want, but no surgeries or anything permanent. In general that stuff should be talked out with professionals at least if it keeps going till puberty (so can use puberty blockers if really really not a phase I suppose). But again nothing to do with teachers. After all teachers don't go "omg you are so goth, please never change" to those going through a goth phase.
@susie that's the thing, the idea never comes from the kid. it's coming from the overwhelming tide of degeneracy being funneled in to every aspect of the child's life that their parents are completely oblivious to for one reason or another. or, they wholeheartedly support it. like i said, it is preying on children's insecurities. and just people in general tbh. because most people don't actually care about other people, they care about how they look to other people.
i know there are legitimately cases of kids actually being transgender. i actually know one person like that personally and he (ftm) HATES what has become of all of this. because nobody told him about transgenderism, he was never abused or anything like that, had a good upbringing, etc. but now he sees how much insecurity and hurt plays a part in people becoming trans and hates it.
and yeah, a lot of kids are getting fed up with it. they hate being preached to about it all the time and talked down to. socially ostracized for not complying. they see what it does to their peers. younger zoomers and gen alpha is going to be fucked up beyond all recognition when they realize that everyone they know and all these systems meant to "protect them" have failed them completely in exchange for profit and social brownie points at best, and sick, twisted desires at worst.
my age group, that weird spot between zoomers and millennials that nobody can agree on, is the beginning of futures being eroded and it only goes downhill from there.
@susie sorry for ranting like a madman but whenever shit involves kids it breaks me
i need some fuckin tylenol now lol
@susie honestly i don't care if people are trans, i want what is best for everyone and my opinion is that going trans isn't really a good thing to do but that's not going to stop me from being respectful to someone as long as they are a good person at the end of the day.
but when it comes to children, i think they should probably be kept away from this stuff, not thrust into an environment that encourages it for 8 hours a day every day. not an environment that feeds off their insecurities just so that adults can feel like they are doing something virtuous in the eyes of their peers.
and i don't think that's a crazy political take to have. i think it ought to be perfectly normal to not want kids to be around stuff that has serious implications and impacts on mental health. including stuff like religion and a lot of the internet. i would hope that a sentiment like that would be bipartisan but unfortunately it rarely seems like it is.