on the other hand, just started playing nine sols instead and i am immediately waaaay more invested in it. i'd play more if i wasn't about to fall asleep. the fact you start with a dash, a wall run/cling, a parry, and a map is already a massive improvement over hollow knight and the combat feels a lot more tangible.

we'll see how i feel in the next few hours of gameplay because it could run into some of the same issues, but for now i like it way more already.

i picked up hollow knight originally because it is my roommate's favorite game and we had a deal that if i played hollow knight he would play ocarina of time. i figure if i'm not going to play hollow knight much anymore, i can at least play another game he is really into.

@beardalaxy The unlocking of skills is a part of the experience, I'd say.

@Jens_Rasmussen it definitely is, but there needs to be a good enough core to begin with and i don't really think hollow knight has a good enough core. the gameplay only looks fun-ish when you've got basically everything unlocked. meanwhile, super metroid, symphony of the night, rogue legacy, mega man x, axiom verge, luna nights... they all have extremely good core gameplay and then you get to add stuff on top of that that makes it even more interesting and fun.

i watched the trailer for silk song and the combat in that looks a lot more interesting. i'm hoping that it starts interesting.

nine sols has an entire skill tree lol, it definitely seems more up my alley so far.

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I enjoyed Hollow Knight, and things like earning a double jump or a dash really feels like significant upgrades, which I like.
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@Jens_Rasmussen i can see why people like it, for sure. i just find that the gameplay isn't very fun for me and it's not progressing fast enough to keep me invested.

@Jens_Rasmussen the other thing is that i keep hearing the game is like 50 hours for a first playthrough, and i'm typically the kind of person who likes to explore the map to its fullest so there's a good chance it would be even more than that. i put 60 hours into a 100% run of ffxvi, i'm not going to put a similar amount of time into hollow knight. there are just so many other things i'd rather do that i know i'm going to have a much more fun time with.

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