AI vs people's jobs
Was there ever a concern that Miku would make singers lose their jobs?
I don't think there was....
If not, why? What does Miku (and Vocaloid technology in general) do that makes it not-a-threat and could AI become not-a-threat in a similar manner?
AI vs people's jobs
@wolf480pl@mstdn.io I think the difference is that Vocaloid just still relies on the creativity of a human. But generative AI largely replaces that.
@sigmasternchen @wolf480pl if you want a good sounding AI it requires a lot of work on the human's part, just like vocaloids. it's just that AI has a lower barrier of entry.
vocaloid is basically its own genre of music. i see AI being its own genre as well.
as a musician myself, it's hard to be mad at something that led to this.
@sigmasternchen @beardalaxy
hmm so part of the problem is that some of those AI tools can have an unlimited number of voices, while Vocaloid is just a few recognizable ones?
@wolf480pl@mstdn.io @beardalaxy@gameliberty.club I don't necessarily think so. Like: A standard synthesizer like Serum also has an unlimited number of voices.
From my perspective it's mainly a question of where the creativity comes from. (And of course the classics, like where the training data comes from, etc.)
@wolf480pl @sigmasternchen anyone can make a "vocaloid" just like anyone can train an AI on a data set. the existing vocaloids and other voicebanks have their own culture surrounding them and that can affect the decision to use a specific one.
@sigmasternchen @wolf480pl with suno, we're talking about that lower barrier of entry thing. anyone can slap in a prompt and have it churn out something, but the results are extremely varied and you don't really have any direct control over it. it's more of a thing for quick laughs than anything else imo.
will it get better over time? yes. but there is an issue where the better AI gets, the better the pilot of the AI needs to be. if companies are looking to be that pilot, then it takes more agency away from the end user and you'll end up with something that sounds pretty, but not necessarily what you want. if it is on the end user to be the pilot, then the barrier of entry increases as it gets more complex.
plus, there is an important factor to real music and that is live performances. every major innovation in music has not killed live shows and i doubt AI will either. artists get the majority of their money through live shows, so i don't really see it as an issue in that regard either.
@beardalaxy@gameliberty.club @wolf480pl@mstdn.io Totally agree. I think using AI like synthesizers is totally fine.
The interesting part is: What about stuff like Suno that almost completely removes the creativity from the music making process. Personally I don't know. And the fact I very often just can't tell if a song was AI-generated or not is kinda disturbing. ^^"