@beardalaxy I think it's important to point out that lolicon is banned in the U.K. (where this case occured) as CSAM, so, ironically, if it was legalized/decriminalized, then maybe this person wouldn't have done what they did...

@Aldo2 @beardalaxy i don't think lolicon prevents pedos from offending. if anything it would slightly increase it but i don't really think from what I've read that it's a "gateway drug" either. they're basically unrelated.

@bajax @Aldo2 i generally think that loli can help people cope with attractions BUT there is a big problem with people basically driving each other deeper in the loli community in certain spaces it seems, so you still have to go about it in a healthy way otherwise it won't go well. that's why it's important for lolicons to have a good antibody response when they see that type of shit and i don't see that enough.

another use case for loli as a coping mechanism i've seen is for people who have been abused. i don't really know the psychology behind it or anything but yeah.

@beardalaxy

You're trying to gatekeep an attraction, which never works.

@Aldo2 that's not what i'm doing at all, you're just projecting your own attraction onto what i'm trying to say. i'm talking about the people who go into lolisho communities and shit up the place with their signal ID asking people to trade and caption art with MAP edits. i'm talking about the people who go in there and advocate for abusing kids. it's social engineering shit and people have to stand up to it. it's a lot like the lgbt community ending up where it is now with the general sentiment seeming to be that it is totally fine for kids to transition (puberty blockers et al). that didn't just start from nowhere, it started from sick people who drove other people to be sick just like them and nobody stood up to it.

@beardalaxy you literally said that lolicons have to act as "antibodies" to prevent people "going deeper"

That is textbook gatekeeping my boi.

Did it ever occur to you that the people putting "trade" in comments are.....You know....Federal agents trying to entrap people?

Mate, you think having a consensual relationship with a 15 year old is "abuse".

"Social engineering shit" says the person saying he's an "antibody".

"It's like the LGBT community ending up where it is now"

Yeah, and "gays against groomers" are doing the gatekeeping of their own haha

"Sick people" yeah, people who just aren't you.

@Aldo2 so do you think that a community shouldn't try to routinely btfo feds and other bad actors? whether they're feds or genuine doesn't matter, it's the integrity of the community and making sure those things don't propagate and become genuine.