Why can't people get it through their fucking thick ass skulls that even though inflation happened, games costing the same is not a problem for companies because their market is exponentially bigger than it was back in the day?! And it keeps growing!!

Every time I hear a fucking nintendo simp defending the price hike with "BuT gAMeS cOsT ThE sAme DeSpITe iNflAtIon" it makes my blood boil.

Why do these fucking companies need more money anyway? they already make enough SMFH

@Gatitasecsii inflation + bigger games + bigger teams + bigger budgets = higher price.

i'm of the opinion that games need to be drastically scaled down and a lot of the industry needs to be cut with a focus on smaller, tighter experiences. that's kind of what indie games are for, though.

as far as nintendo goes, i guess we'll have to wait and see if $80 is really worth it for mario kart or not. it doesn't seem like they have shown that much of it. there could be another situation like tears of the kingdom where the depths weren't talked about at all, they were just in the game for players to find. personally, i know i will get $80 worth of mario kart world either way, just because i am a huge mario kart fan and will likely play it for hundreds of hours, but if other people don't think that then i guess we will see a change in direction.

i do know that with how many people already don't want to buy a lot of AAA games at $70 or even $60 (or in the case of something like concord, even $40), with tons of studios closing down because of it. things are going to be accelerating faster now with the game industry i think, if these companies are really going to try pushing for their shitty games to be $80 without a huge change to every facet of development.

@beardalaxy

Yes, but just because the games are bigger and take more investment to develop doesn't mean they need to increase prices.

Games sell at incredible numbers nowadays, especially this decade when mediocre games have been selling millions during release week.

They really do NOT need the price increase at all, it's not like back in the day when selling 200k copies was considered a lot, nowadays games are selling that regardless or they would have to be atrociously bad not to.

@Gatitasecsii 200K sales has never been good for a game. at least, not since like the NES. maybe before then? go look at the sales figures for any notable game back then, they're waaaay higher than 200K.

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@Gatitasecsii it's not good for a AAA game, perhaps even a AA game. indie games though, absolutely, 200K sales is pretty notable.

@beardalaxy

60 x 200 000 = 12 000 000

If that's not enough in the 1980's, I don't know what reality is anymore.

As for the modern day, I said games are getting millions of sales, the numbers are exorbitant now, even if the dollar is worth less.

@Gatitasecsii this is part of the equation though, because games are still selling millions of copies and not even breaking even. Alan Wake 2 had a budget of 70 million euros, and it wasn't able to break even. this is why games need to seriously scale down and offer tighter experiences, especially ones that are more replayable.

back in the 80s you had teams of like 10 dudes making mario 3. they were able to keep budgets a lot lower. a modern day example is expedition 33, which has a team of like 30 dudes and they were able to keep the budget a lot lower while still offering GOTY quality at a more affordable price. that's the key to "solving" the industry, imo. there is just way, way too much bloat.

there are also way more factors that go into it than just the game's budget and the sales themselves. there is the profit margin so they can keep making games, there are all the fees paid to various platforms and manufacturers that aren't included in the budget of the game, there's the cost of running the actual studio itself (rent/maintenance/etc).

in nintendo's case, i do actually think that a large part of it is them arbitrarily deciding that the game is better than the competition with much higher demand and so it can be priced more. it's greedy, for sure, but i can't exactly argue with that logic. especially when you take into account the whole thing about games not actually costing $60 technically for a long time now.

@Gatitasecsii if i keep typing like this i'm going to wear out my keys lol

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