https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPJtweDaiYY
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@ChristiJunior played the game, it wasn't feminist shit, i think people who think so are probably way too lost in the sauce and might not understand tropes that have existed for decades. i'll watch his video when i get the chance and see what he's talking about but i really didn't see anything that set off alarm bells unless i was specifically trying to be retarded.
@cunny @ChristiJunior ufo ending is the "pervert revenge mode" trope: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PervertRevengeMode
niggas saying it is feminist shit have never watched an anime in their life
plus it is a joke ending it ain't that deep lol
that ending and the whole game has all the women being bitches to each other xD
silent hill f story explanation
@cunny @ChristiJunior the basic story of the game is
-dad is an asshole, treats mom bad
-mom just takes it because that is the traditional role for a woman
-MC hates both of them, her dad for being an asshole and her mom for just sitting there and taking it
-MC's older sister who she is very close to gets married and that makes things at home harder for her
-dad is such an asshole that he has unpaid debts that can now only be paid by marrying off MC to a wealthy family
-MC doesn't want to get married to some random dude because she's worried he'll turn out to be just like her dad
-she still has an internal struggle between just following the societal expectation and going her own way and that causes her a shit ton of stress
-MC's best friend (guy who doesn't treat her like a traditional woman, treats her like "one of the guys" pretty much) is an herbologist and gives her medicine from his family that is a spiritual hallucinogen thing. he does this in the hope that she will be able to reconcile with herself
-on top of this, the town is shinto and worships inari, and there is a legend where whenever a young girl goes missing from the town she has been spirited away by a relative of the fox god to be married to them and they have a good life
this is where the story gets a little wacky for me, i haven't gotten too far into NG+ yet but it isn't super necessary for this conversation. basically MC takes the drugs, she may or may not be missing from the town and in the spirit world or it might just be symbolism, she is being courted by the fox god relative who is also this wealthy dude she was being married off to by her father. it turns out he is a good guy and is guiding her through the extremely difficult process of shedding her youth and becoming a woman and he's there every step of the way, HOWEVER there is the part of MC that doesn't want this and is still really scared of it so she battles against it.
the first ending of the game is a fakeout ending where the drugs were just making her see shit the whole time and she was killing real people at her own arranged wedding. i don't believe that's actually the case.
the second ending has her marrying the guy and the part of her that is fearful of it gets squashed, the wealthy guy and her best friend even become friends because they both have the ideal of protecting MC. it does have a bit of an element of toxicity to it though because MC never reconciled with her fearful side, she just tucked it away.
the third ending has her defeating the wealthy guy and leaving with her best friend so she can essentially be a kid forever with him, or at least that's my interpretation of it.
the fourth ending is the "true" ending, that you have to play through the game three times to get. which is a little steep, for sure. anyway, this one has MC reconciling both sides of herself and together they convince the wealthy dude that they should both wait and make the decision for themselves instead of it being arranged. if their love for each other is actually real, then they will find out over time and they begin writing each other letters.
also this wealthy dude was helped by MC when they were both little kids. he was hurt by an animal (either a rabbit or a fox, can't remember atm) and MC helps patch him up as well as shooing away the animal without all the adults killing it. the wealthy dude then has to move but never forgets MC.
i didn't read this as being a woke game at all. its setting is in a time where women were heavily pressured into traditional roles no matter what, but it is used as a really interesting backdrop for a much more broad issue that plagues people today everywhere in the world: having extreme societal pressure to the point where it harms you. alongside that, with the struggle of going through all these pressures while also growing up and transitioning into adulthood. the message of the game is very clear, that you need to reconcile those two parts of yourself and find a way to proceed forward as a person that is actually healthy. i relate to that story a lot as someone who was the eldest child on both sides of the family and had a huge amount of religious pressure on top of that and it is something i'm *still* trying my best to piece together after being torn apart. i think it is a story that would resonate with a LOT of people if they could stop being retarded about it and just whittle it down to "men bad, marriage bad" or some stupid shit like that.
@cunny @ChristiJunior mind you, i got the vast majority of this from a single playthrough + watching the other endings. it's not that difficult to understand.
@WandererUber @ChristiJunior @cunny well naturally the character is a female, so you would expect it to be about a girl's version of those expectations and struggles. If it were a male protagonist with male societal struggles I bet people would call him weak and gay or some shit and that would only solidify the message too. I realize I'm talking to a bunch of autists who probably have trouble relating to abstract concepts though.
Nobody here has any problem with it being a story about women and arranged marriage at all. Everyone knows the fairy tales, and even shōjo stories for that matter, that deal with marriage and running away and true love. Don't pretend that this is the issue.
Unlike those stories, this game doesn't offer "marry the prince" as the alternative, it offers "stay single and childless and go find yourself". It's clear what the messaging is but you don't want to see it because parts of this story resonate with you, which is no wonder if you're personally affected by similar issues. Synthetic Man highlights actual examples of why the characters do not work, or rather assume liberal priors from the viewer to function.
It's disingenuous to dumb the "anti-woke" position down to "this game deals with arranged marriage and the chuds just don't like it"
@WandererUber @ChristiJunior @cunny i apologize, it was rude of me to be insulting.
i heavily disagree with your reading of the game's story though. i haven't watched the synthetic man video yet but i'll probably heavily disagree with him too.
i even went into the game thinking it was going to be feminist bullshit and i was going to hate it, but came out of it thinking that was all hyped up based on some out of context lines. i enjoyed it altogether, minus some unfortunate technical issues and the camera being a bitch.
Also your post sounds like you're just mad he insulted a product you like.
He is not that smart and he phones it in a lot too. Doesn't mean he's always wrong, no need to be a contrarian.
>boosted by the algorithm
nigga u lost the plot
The TotK video also isn't what made him "famous" - that would be him rightfully calling of God of Soy: Ragnarok for its shitlib anti-male, anti-White politics, and Soyny-loving "anti-SJW" faggots like Mauler throwing a hissy fit over it.
TotK isn't even among his Top 20 most viewed videos.
recommend me not ugly content creators
Oh no I am so owned I hope you stop o geez
This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhyLF11RJlU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aRAxJuwmfA
Once you "step out" of liberal ideology you can see it very easily in most media, not just this, and I guess you just haven't. At the same time, an illiberal game from a mainstream source is going to be a steep ask for a long time yet.
"Coincidentally" portraying a person for whom every single traditional "institution", i.e. parents, marriage, motherhood, the ancestral religion (Shinto), priests, school, peers, normal people, the village, etc. is a NEGATIVE, i.e. an extreme outlier, and ONLY ever portraying that person, is basically the core of liberalism and also feminism. "But what about the women who don't want to marry?" -> "Women don't need to marry early, they should find themselves first" -> Abject misery.
It's always like that. "The liberal always argues the exception."
They didn't turn the smoking liberal ran-through foid from the city into a boss because she finds her weird envious aunt disgusting, they turned motherhood into an abomination. And if they DID do the reverse, you would obviously say it's right wing.
>its setting is in a time where women were heavily pressured into traditional roles no matter what
You fell for the liberal historical narrative. Men were also "pressured" into it, yet the feminist narrative makes only passing mention of it, if at all. Normal people are being asked to liberate others while having things taken from them. This is literally 101 stuff.