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Even the true ending for Silent Hill F is not her actually marrying the dude, it's her "taking her time", which is everything wrong with women nowadays, I'm not sure how you can't see how it's feminist.
@Immahnoob everyone saying this is missing some extremely key points.
the girl "taking her time" exists in the same body as the girl wanting to devote herself to kotoyuki, the man she was going to be married to in an arranged marriage. the same girl who defended kotoyuki just wanting to be together with her and be happy.
this "taking her time" is not the modern day equivalent of "taking her time." hinako was going to go into a forced marriage because her dad had debts he needed to pay off, and is legitimately scared about getting married due to everything she's seen with her own parents + how she was treated in 1960s JAPAN as a tomboy instead of a little perfect princess.
kotoyuki comes to the realization that, although he is extremely passionate for hinako, they barely actually know each other. they both agree that they need to wait a bit longer before marrying and they begin actually getting to know each other first.
hinako straight up tells kotoyuki "if the love you have for us was real, then i hope we can meet again. we'll think it through, slowly and carefully. we'll have our answer ready."
on top of all of this, if you want to go with the interpretation that the spiritual parts are far more real and not just hallucinated, which as far as i can tell so far the game leaves pretty vague, there is an ancient "spell" that causes kotoyuki to be extremely invested in hinako. he says that he wants to make sure his love for her is actually real and not just some spell binding them. reminds me a little bit of the witcher with yennefer and geralt actually.
the more "hallucination" interpretation of this would be that the "spell" is his strict mother (which is a whole other aspect of this story) and hinako's parents both trying to get them married, and that pressure to do so is hastening the pace so it feels like a spell has been cast.
people are looking at this game through way too much of a modern day political lens, absolutely brain rotted by other actually woke games. there is so much focus on hinako being some girlboss or something like that without taking *any* of the extra context in.
i don't know if people just have not gone through anything even remotely similar to what hinako has and so they just don't get it, or they are lacking something that lets them empathize with the character, or if they do empathize with the character and are just distancing themselves, or what. i'm sure the vast majority of people talking about it haven't played the game, haven't dove into the story as was intended by the writer, and are probably just being reactionary as a defense mechanism. youtubers doing it are probably just ragebaiting, whether they know it or not.
Yeah, that's one of your arguments I'll firmly reject - we know that left-liberals are constantly resorting to the Motte-and-bailey fallacy to make people swallow their worldview, so the idea that a Current Year game pushing typical Feminist arguments somehow doesn't count because it's applied to a pre-3rd wave Feminist setting, or to a situation where obvious wrongs are taking place, seems naïve at best. Let's also remember that modern left-liberals are often so extreme and deranged that there's not much reason to think they can distinguish between forced, abusive marriages and the 1950s nuclear family, or between a violent drunk father and benevolent patriarchy.
I expanded a bit on this point earlier this year, when I went over a particular sidequest chain in Xenoblade 3 which I didn't really have much of a response to on my first playthrough, but which I found very pernicious when replaying the game.
>Essentially, the sidequest chain in question involves the realization that Colony Tau’s peculiar customs and traditions are nothing but the inventions of Moebius, more specifically the twisted Consul U. After this awful truth is exposed and we press F for U, naturally Colony Tau needs to turn a page on its backwards past. Now, in-universe this makes perfect sense, but in terms of how the “media literate” types will read it…you can probably see the issue here. And as much as I would like to say that ANY kind of long-lasting tradition being the product of malevolent conspiracies is an idea so obviously outlandish that nobody would try to apply it to the real world, my experience with left-liberals suggests otherwise – these are ABSOLUTELY the kinds of people who will unironically claim that groups of old, White men have from time immemorial used religion and tradition to keep women, nonwhites and sexual minorities down, rather than acknowledge the obvious – the whole reason that enduring traditions and ways of doing things endure is because they WORK, even if shortsighted people whose whole morality is based around the Current Thing can’t grasp that. So giving these mental midgets a storyline like this to latch onto is quite unfortunate.
@ChristiJunior @Immahnoob the problem here is that you don't have to take the game as propaganda if you don't want to, but a lot of people seem to want to take it as feminist propaganda and get mad about it for being that. EVEN IF the intent was for the story to be subversive and actually get you to like modern day feminism or some shit, even if it is the same arguments that modern day feminists use, you can still absolutely 100% view the story outside of that and take it for what it is instead of doing some mental gymnastics to take it as what you think it was supposed to be. i have no idea what ryukishi07's political beliefs are, and i don't really care for the majority of creators as long as what they create turns out being good.
and i know you understand this because you understand there is a difference between the in-universe explanations making sense and the way the the "media literate" types read it.
it's not just those mental midgets latching on to the story though, it is the anti-woke crowd too because they perceive it to be made for the mental midgets and that makes them angry. does that make sense?
@ChristiJunior @Immahnoob I understand what you're saying, but I think it is a whole lot of performative mental gymnastics just so that you can be mad about something tbh.
Also, effective propaganda will by its nature work on much smarter people than the ones falling for Dustborn-tier brainwashing, especially since they might *think* they're hip to messages being pushed by the story, while still unintentionally having their worldview (ever so slightly) be altered by the more subtle propaganda they're exposed to, like Radical Individualism.