@antares @Fullmetal2255 @tyler And that's exactly what happened IIRC, or at least, that's what the people thought would happen and it's probably accurate. So the whole thing is thrown to the wolves for the modicum of "respectability" they'll get for a wider audience that doesn't give a shit. I recall the EVO owning guys freaking out when the Japan branch Japanese women presenter did some fanservice and they shut the thing down lmao. It's like AGDQ, how it was at the beginning vs the absolute fake monstrosity it became. Is it even fucking worth it?