@beardalaxy oh damn... thats bad - people actually referred to that with loli?? ive only seen them used as exclusive categories so as to not cause confusion - though i suppose youd want the confusion on open forums if thats the subject for whatever reason?
but that does mean the two tendencies tend to the same manifestation - weakening the linguistic specificity, childabusers calling stuff that is and isnt childabuse loli, and puritans calling stuff that is and isnt childabuse (by calling it pedophilic due to conflating the terms).
but yea ig it makes sense with the epstein case to wanna create confusion around what is what