@meowski Refusing all modern vaccines, is definitely the right way to go, I can't argue with that.
The industry, like most other industries, rushes products to market, so if it's not a decade old, I'm not touching it.
(Ozempic is a good example)
You're right about comorbidities, infectious diseases are more of a tipping point, not the exclusive cause.
They do however burn through nursing homes like a wild fire, which is why procedures there are very strict, and why average life expectancy is 75 to 84 throughout Europe.
Human biology didn't change that much in a few hundred years, but life expectancy rose dramatically.
And with few exceptions, it's hygiene, nutrition, heart stents, exercise, and finally isolation, that contributed to that change.
More or less in that order.
Past a certain age, we just don't have effective treatments (that don't cost an arm and a leg) to push life expectancy further.
If you're crazy rich though... you might notice that many ultra wealthy and well connected people tend to live to 100 on the regular.
They have access to procedures that we don't.
@meowski Past 80 your immune system just can't be helped, there's not much there to train, so vaccines might as well be placebo.
Quarantine is the only reliable way to keep most people alive past that point.
That's what nursing homes are for, and why you don't go into a nursing home if you know you're sick.
As for fraud, I'm well aware of the scale, I worked in the field as a programmer for a clinical research center.
I would estimate that about 80% of studies are a mess.
Not entirely useless, but not to be considered on their own, and taken with a heap of salt.
Some are fraud, most have methodological flaws.
Turns out that isolating any given factor out of all of creation is not a simple task.
As for the standard vaccines.
From flu shots, to Tetanus.
They passed the test of time long ago.
New variations of those however, are a different story.
The Americans and their vaccines are a special case, no one else gives flu shots to kids on a yearly basis.
That's just insane, and can't be anything other than massive corruption that other nations just don't seem to have (besides maybe China).
@meowski "by the time you're that old you have acquired immunity to most stuff like cold and flu" - If it worked that way, old people wouldn't be getting sick.
It's not magic, just the risk vs reward being different for certain age groups.
Risk of death from flu increases sharply, so the 20~40% is worth the risk (provided there is still an immune system to prepare, which after that age group there is not), and long-term downsides don't matter when there is no long-term to consider.
Same reason the elderly are often given stronger pain medication and even addictive substance, because it doesn't matter at that point.
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