@featherFag No man it's literally the argument. Either defend abuse of animals or don't. Saying "but you abuse animals too!" is only moral posturing and it does nothing to relieve animals of their abuse. You can't advocate for the mass killing of millions of animals and then all of a sudden start caring about the wellbeing of bees. If you care about animals your enemy is not vegan hypocrites, it's animal agriculture.
@featherFag Sorry for being abrasive, I'm just feeling frustrated for other reasons. You're right, it's a shade of grey. But we could work towards other methods of pollination. I wish the world were completely different.