@featherFag "Vegans eat food that causes bees to suffer, so therefore we should make all animals experience the maximum level of suffering possible."
@featherFag No man it's literally the argument. Either defend abuse of animals or don't. Saying "but you abuse animals too!" is only moral posturing and it does nothing to relieve animals of their abuse. You can't advocate for the mass killing of millions of animals and then all of a sudden start caring about the wellbeing of bees. If you care about animals your enemy is not vegan hypocrites, it's animal agriculture.
@alex
I'll doff the sarcasm for a minute to explain why this is a particularly dangerous line of thinking for veganism. The idea that anything under 100% commitment to veganism, ie a person who should be a vegan for all but a love of honey, is doing the maximum possible harm to animals would be considered absurd by most. This line of thinking if followed to its conclusion is a knife that cuts both ways. This is a line of thinking that leads as many vegetarians into veganism as it does back into meat eating, because why try to reduce harm when the scale only moves in increments of 100%.
