@gruyere fun fact: Haiti is recognized as the only state in history established by a "successful" slave revolt.

Yeah, very successful in the long run
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@racuna @gruyere

If you read the history of the slave rebellion, and what the colonial powers did to Haiti afterward, you would see why it is the way it is today.

Imagine Russian style sanctions, but harsher, on an island republic of ex-slaves. Not to mention agricultural sabotage done as revenge to starve the ex-slaves.

And that republic had no allies like Russian had China.

1804 Haiti was amazing...I'm surprised it's existed as a country this long, to be quite honest.

It's gone through many trials since.

Oh yeah, just learned that USA and Canada planning to invade Haiti.

If you have time, read links below in order. You will see how an ex-cop in Haiti who is trying to stabilize Haiti (after their leader was assassinated, um...was it last year or 2021?) against growing gang elements is himself now being characterized as a gang leader.

I don't know all the details, but it looks fishy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7JVDvP1Ldk&t=1178s

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/haiti/article272138847.html
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@Waerloga @racuna I agree that Haiti has had a hard lot. Calling it amazing in 1804 is a bit of a stretch. By the end of the Haitian Revolution Port au Prince had been burned down (for the second time iirc). Most of the infrastructure on the island had been destroyed. Within a few short years the only way to get the economy back on track was for Dessalines to force (former) slaves to work in plantations again.

Haiti suffered from the same problems that most Latin American revolutions suffered from in that it became a string of strongmen that wanted autocratic rule and to fleece the population to enrich themselves and close friends.

Haiti had had tons of trials from outside sources as well, but it’s disingenuous to say that’s the only source of its troubles. Could it have been a better place if the world embraced it directly and immediately? I don’t know and neither does anyone else.

Also, man, that shit with the president’s assassin being an FBI informant is fucked up.