>Una de las inspiraciones del ideal masculino de las SA fue Die Rolle der Erotik in der männlichen Gesellschaft de Blüher, que postulaba que los lazos eróticos entre hombres generaban una estabilidad social y política más fuerte que la familia heterosexual tradicional.

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@locarnta >Si bien Blüher reconoce las relaciones sexuales con mujeres como una parte necesaria del orden patriarcal y reproductivo, las SA idealizaban los vínculos amorosos entre hombres como esenciales para construir un espíritu combativo necesario para la defensa de la nación.
@locarnta Yeah the SA was very gay. One of the reasons people like Himmler hated it. The nazis were at the end of the day anti-homo, and there were more pro-homo views early on. The pro-homo views being strongest in the SA (many being homosexuals themself). May also be worth noting that homosexuality was commonplace in the wandervogel (pre-nazi German nationalist youth groups).

The anti-homo view were motivated by people like Himmler and Rosenberg. The latter Röhm called a "clownish moral athlete" writing to the gay völkisch writer Karl-Günter Heimsoth about laws against homosexuality.

And the magazine talked about in there Der Eigene was a gay anarchist magazine, which is why it was later destroyed by the nazis. But it did publish articles by nazis like Heimsoth's Freundesliebe oder Homosexualität. And held similar view on homosexuality and even on the jews.

And if you want more gay figures in German nationalism you have frederick the great himself.

@SuzyCreamcheese Yeah, and iirc the Röhm purge happened because the SA was getting "scary." A lot of the SA dealings are best summed up as "there's no heterosexual explanation for that."

@locarnta @rats I believed I talked with you about a lot of this before but I feel like tagging you
@SuzyCreamcheese @locarnta it's still fascinating that this / propaganda saying fascists were degenerates / people thinking 'salo' was real lead to communists/anti-fascists being anti-gay for a lot of the 20th century
@rats @SuzyCreamcheese @locarnta people who think that "Salo" is somehow representative of the fascists elites have negative IQ. Salo is purely a depiction of fetishism, inspired by the literature of De Sade, who was part of the enlightenment elites, who were certainly not fascists.
@rats @SuzyCreamcheese @locarnta even Pasolini himself imo knew that fascism was not the central theme of the movie, but an excuse to set up the plot
@RikaDerufu @SuzyCreamcheese @locarnta

> In 1993, the Family Research Institute sent out a newspaper asking "Was the Young Hitler a Homosexual Prostitute?"

wow huge if true
@rats @SuzyCreamcheese @locarnta how did animal fat make communists and anti fascists anti gay
@eris @SuzyCreamcheese @locarnta uhh dont look into that book until youre older but it was just a time when homosexuality was seen as libertine/degenerate by most political parties so people were using conspiracy theory logic to come up with reasons to kick the gays out of any movement that had any sort of ideology
@eris @SuzyCreamcheese @locarnta it looks like dinesh d'souza made a movie in 2018 that says nazis did not persecute gays lol
@SuzyCreamcheese @rats @eris @locarnta qrd on pink triangle, ( I assume you mean the book) I see it get posted by tranny shills on teevee, is it mostly made up shit like that 'blitzed' book or whatever?
@Arty24 @SuzyCreamcheese @eris @locarnta was blitzed mostly made up? it's an interesting topic that i would love to read a good study on
@rats @SuzyCreamcheese @eris @locarnta more like sensationalized to my understanding, making this meme of "the nazis were the only ones who used stimulants (which is somehow crazy and immoral)"
@Arty24 @eris @locarnta @rats The book is a weird form of anti-gay fearmongering. To sum-up "nazis were gay so gays are bad". The sources he uses are BS like I don't trust Ernst Hanfstængl that Hitler was bi or Dusty Sklar whp also thinks the nazis were satanist and freemasons.
@SuzyCreamcheese @Arty24 @eris @locarnta i think he was asking about pink triangle not pink swastika (unless im getting confused)
@rats @eris @locarnta And also things like the history of Frederick The Great's homosexuality being suppressed, so people could still think positively about him
@eris @rats @locarnta anti-fascists both of the conservative and communist used the accusation of homosexuality as an attack. And communism has a history of being anti-gay Marx even used Bakunin's relationship to Nechaev as the reason for expelling the anarchists from the International in 1872.
@nyx @eris @locarnta @rats I like the level of dialogue. Should also look into the altercations of mazzini and marx, it's just insults like 1800s yo mama jokes. But here it's like

Bakunin: Marx you're a kike surrounded by other kikes all funded by the rothschilds
Marx: I don't want you to talk to me faggot. Go suck cock
@SuzyCreamcheese @eris @locarnta @rats if you like that you should see Marx's sperg tantrum over Stirner (I'm assuming you're already familiar)

@SuzyCreamcheese @rats @eris @nyx the virgin communist femboys vs the national socialist sexual brotherhood

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