@matrix plus the feature is idiotic to begin with so it's wasted effort.
@matrix :gargamel: finally exposed blocks? Good for him. This idea that knowing you're blocked somehow feeds harassment is pretty absurd. Sure, there will be a few cases as with anything but I don't recall seeing anyone here going out of their way to continue harassing a person by making a ton of socks. That's just too much energy for a boring drama with somebody that doesn't matter. Who wants to waste their time with that?
@dude @matrix

>but I don't recall seeing anyone here going out of their way to continue harassing a person by making a ton of socks

*cough* Chara *cough* Folk *cough*
@jack they're treated as lepers though and it's less about socks for them and more about stashing accounts because they can't even survive an instance with lax rules.

t. an admin who banned chara after his smug stunt @matrix
@jack plus those idiots are far from normal mentally and fall under my "there will always be a few" remark :bill-gates1: @matrix
@dude @matrix I'm in favor of the idea the blocked people should not know they are blocked, the AP standard says that a blocked activity should not be send to the actor being blocked. Federated blocks were a Gargron invention, and he's just trying to fix the problems that came with them
@dirb meh, I don't think Pleroma should have a bad UX just because Eugen was an idiot. @matrix
@dirb you can, but if someone doesn't want to interact with me to the point that they block me why would I want to howl at the moon? @matrix
@dude @matrix @dirb That's why blocks don't need to federate anywhere.
@dude @matrix because they can simply ignore you without blocking you, and you could not know of they are blocking you, muting you, or just ignoring
@dirb for me it's a pain in the ass. Recall I used to drive a GS instance. When I run into that I'm caught between blocked or broken.
Blocking has it's uses for a number of people even if we don't use it ourselves. @matrix
@dude @matrix I think blocking has it uses to, but I don't think it should rely on the others instances respecting it
@dirb thus it's a choice in Pleroma. Since I choose to I would at least like to know. You choose not to so it doesn't matter to you. One choice shouldn't overrule the other :) @matrix
@dirb @dude @matrix huh i didn't know they were a garg invention, but i guess they are

you can still turn off federated blocks in pleroma config, they have been there for a long time, just have been switched on by default relatively recently
@nik @dude @matrix I remember that @kaniini post a quote where Gargron said that federate blocks were his invention and admitted they are out of standard
@dude @matrix @nik @dirb "on one hand you'll know to avoid instances our clique hates. In the other hand thise blocked instsnces wont shut themselves down because of it."
@Kro @matrix @nik @dirb @dude
These people have no problem blocking you and announcing their blocks or letting you know they strongly hate you

They're freaking out because they block their "friends" all the time and this is like throwing a grenade in a ball pit full of children.
@matrix yeah, I hope people are appreciative instead of screaming about him being a hypocrite for changing his mind or something.
@matrix
Mastosjws: If someone is blocked they shouldn't see my profile and everything
Gargron: but then they'll know they're blocked and that's a bad idea?
Mastosjws: Literally shut up you white man, you just haven't been harrassed enough
Gargron: okay then, we'll show users that they're blocked
Mastosjws: omg I'll get harrassed over this so much, stupid white man
@Neko_Mizu @matrix You need to catch up with Mastodon bs tbh, everyone's always screaming at Gargron
@waifu @matrix I occasionally talk crap about Gargron when he does something bad or deserves it but it's typically ok because I know he mutes my instance and I don't really mean him any harm.

However, he gets 10000x more shit from his own users on github than he ever does from normal people like us

I could never compete with that
@matrix sensible would have been never adding blocks because they are retarded and meaningless on fedi anyway. Mute works for all intended purposes.
@matrix

You can't talk to these people. You just do shit and ignore them.
@matrix But letting the harasser know you blocked them is part of the fun.
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