Should connection to the DB be always open or should I only open it when I need it?

@wowaname A script that parses the Mastodon profile static UI and saves every user and status it find into a DB

@matrix keeping db open is probably fine. sqlite db or something else?

@wowaname
Yeah. It's just SQLite. Should I do deduplication with the DB or in code? I want to make it multithreaded, so I think it's probably easier to just have the DB handle it.

@r000t
Experience. Your client is going to parse Mastodon's static UI? Awesome.
@wowaname

@matrix
Everyone is going to turn off the public API when that shit drops.

The static parser will be released shortly thereafter. I'm literally holding it back until admins start saying "phew! that client can't ever see my instance no matter what! I'm am very intelligent."

@wowaname

@r000t
That's a pretty great plan. I'm looking forward to the screeching. How are you going to handle Pleroma since it doesn't have a static UI?
@wowaname

@matrix
For now I'm going to naively assume that pleroma admins are less likely to try to play the "public to everyone but who i disagree with" game

Barring that, reinplement the web viewer in Python.

I played this game with losers who wrote imageboard software in their spare time, 10 years ago.
@wowaname

@r000t @matrix pleromafe uses api so you cant exactly filter requests to it
@r000t @matrix well, most you can do is set an instance's private mode to on, like i do on pl.wowana.me. but i only do that to cut down bandwidth use. i know stuff's still accessible directly, like post objects and whatnot

@matrix @wowaname @r000t I haven't been following this very closely. Whats going on with all this fetch stuff and Mastodon devs...?

@wowaname @matrix @r000t Alright, but what are the details, rationale? Like are they just deliberately making a Pleroma incompatibility or something? Isn't that just fucking up activitypub?

@shebang @matrix @r000t huh? both masto and pleroma are implementing authorised fetch from what i remember hearing

i dont know when you joined fedi, i was referring to something that happened years ago on fedi

@wowaname @matrix @r000t Hmm now what was it then, I think it was some big Mastodon server flipped on some option that made it incompatible with older versions. I thought it was fetch-y but now I don't recall. I assumed this was what it was about.

@shebang
Basically, there are a few larger Mastodon instances that suspend other instances for political reasons, but they don't do it to *not see things from that instance*, they do it with the expectation that *people on that instance cannot see their content*

They see it as some sort of divine punishment, that their drivel is something worth taking away.

So it stands to reason that they'd be upset if their content wound up in the servers they suspended. Never mind that it was posted publicly for public consumption, we want our message to go out to the whole world except these people.

So authenticated fetch became a thing.
@wowaname @matrix

@r000t @shebang @matrix authenticated fetch is actually useful with regard to voluntary association, but that point is moot when you realise that all these mastodon servers still have fucking public html pages for everyone to see. thats the kicker
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@wowaname
I think that Mastodon now has a whitelist mode that removes the public HTML pages.
@shebang @r000t

@matrix
And I sincerely hope the tumblrverse instances turn it on. Spare us from their insanity. Let them be in their own corner.
@wowaname @shebang

@r000t
They basically already do this. They added my server to the fediblock within days of it being turned on because someone glanced at it and decided that I wouldn't take action if someone was being abusive. Well I do, it's in the policy, although I've only had to do that once (and it was good old cvcvcv). A few days ago I brought up that it was a shame that they've walled themselves off, and someone on fosstodon called me a cunt lol. It really is tumblrverse, exactly.

@matrix @wowaname

@matrix
In many ways, he never really left...

Anyway I see like cvcvcvebook or something posting racist stuff randomly so I assume it's him. He seems to have a lot of time on his hands.

@fluffy @wowaname @r000t

@matrix
Seriously? Someone made a bot for his posts? Lol, that's amazing.

@fluffy @wowaname @r000t

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