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Want to hear a retarded highly disingenuous argument? Here: “in a society in which racism and sexism were absent, the questions of whether whites or men are more or less intelligent than blacks or women would not merely be meaningless – they would not even be asked”

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Those questions would only be meaningless and not asked anymore if we knew for sure that there were no inherent genetic difference between those demographics that would impact intelligence in any way.
Right now these questions are being asked precisely because we don't know for sure if the differences exist or their impact (even though there are some who will claim these things are already solved).
And the questions are meaningful because we clearly observe differences in outcome when it comes to these demographics and we need to eliminate as many as the variables as possible to find the cause (and solution) to this (seeing how there are many who view these differences of outcome as detrimental and a problem). And intelligence is a big variable.

Even in a completely non-racist society, the questions themselves would still be meaningful for the same reason, that the potential answers have an impact on how our society works. But indeed, they might be asked less or not at all. (although I still expect to see proof that it would indeed be a good idea to not ask and try to answer these questions).
@matrix You mean, in a society where curiosity has been destroyed entirely on the basis of a few people's idea of superiority without effort?
@matrix Well... Alright.

Here's the thing though: intelligence has many more than just a single linear expression.

Intelligence isn't necessarily about how quickly you compute algebraic manipulations, or how much you know about history or geology, you know?
@matrix I strongly disagree. Some high-performance autists are unable to recognise patterns, yet they may eventually become renowned software engineers.
@xyfdi @matrix

Math logic.

The claim "all X are Y" is easily disproven by presenting a counter-example which is X but also not Y.

For example: "all beach balls are red" is easily disproven by simply presenting a beach ball that is the colour blue. This kind of argument is extremely important to understand in a civilised society in which powerful politicians and famous people tend to make argumentation mistakes as big as this one.

The only way to make a solid argument that cannot be easily disproven is by changing your premise to "some beach balls is red", you see, in this case, to prove you wrong by means of counterexamples, I would have to gather literally all the beachballs that have ever been produced, and present them in a way that proves none of them is red. And this is a highly unlikely scenario which also requires a tremendous effort on my part.

Be careful with the words you choose.
@matrix So anti-racism requires people to shut off their brains and not Notice obvious patterns, sounds about right actually.
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