@sjw It's so funny because everything they say is actually quite racist: the idea that black Americas don't have access to the Internet, that the majority of them are poor and therefore do not own cars (or own but not legally drive cars with a license, because they can't get access). This may have been true a long time ago, but access to state ID is no longer costly or difficult.
@djsumdog @sjw@neckbeard.xyz Even if that was the case, the solution isn't to get rid of voter ID.
They just want non-citizens to vote so they can easily get into power.
@matrix @djsumdog @sjw most people are not against voter ID altogether (at least, any reasonable person I have talked to who actually makes this argument).
The problem is that the issue of voter fraud is very overblown, and most voter ID laws do nothing to stop it.
The main problem with voter ID laws is that they are targeted intentionally to suppress voters. For example, let's say you have a law that makes it so you either need a state ID (which you'd have to go out of your way to get and pay a fee) or a driver's license. Surely you can understand how it would be easier for drivers to vote, and harder for non-drivers. So while anyone *can* vote, drivers have it easier.
That's the case now. If ALL forms of issued ID (student ID, driver's license, state ID, etc) were allowed (instead of allowing things that white people are more likely to have - this has happened in some southern states) and ID's were easy and cheap to get (instead of having to wait in line for multiple hours and go out of your way to get them) I would support voter ID laws, or at least, not be against them.
The problem is that the issue of voter fraud is very overblown, and most voter ID laws do nothing to stop it.
The main problem with voter ID laws is that they are targeted intentionally to suppress voters. For example, let's say you have a law that makes it so you either need a state ID (which you'd have to go out of your way to get and pay a fee) or a driver's license. Surely you can understand how it would be easier for drivers to vote, and harder for non-drivers. So while anyone *can* vote, drivers have it easier.
That's the case now. If ALL forms of issued ID (student ID, driver's license, state ID, etc) were allowed (instead of allowing things that white people are more likely to have - this has happened in some southern states) and ID's were easy and cheap to get (instead of having to wait in line for multiple hours and go out of your way to get them) I would support voter ID laws, or at least, not be against them.
@matrix @djsumdog @sjw yes, I would be perfectly fine with that, provided it was free and easy to get the ID.
@mewmew @matrix @djsumdog @sjw There's a lot of situations with state laws regarding IDs that make no sense. There was one time where my photo ID was technically not acceptable because it was an out-of-state identification card and not a driver's license, even though they're equally as good for identification purposes. The guy let me have the drink anyways, but I assume that there's a lot of weird situations where an ID that by any reasonable measure should be acceptable isn't.
