@matrix isn't anon writing a case against 'patriarchy' by describing a form in which both men and women are affected?
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@orekix Is it really a patriarchy if everyone is affected?

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@matrix I guess you could say that some men are affected by it due to expectations and standards imposed by it

























tbf this is the thing I've read the least leftist theory about so I don't really have a nuanced take but I think that it changed from being viewed that it only affected women to also including society as a whole iirc

@orekix It supposedly does, but it's still one sided and completely removes any role women play in it.

@matrix yeah but the thing with having roles and so on is that there's no reply to OP other than something like "man up", so the stereotypical conservative view I guess?
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