@matrix@cereal the jews are a distraction, its such a silly thing.
the real enemy are those who use soviet style subversion tactics, like the KGB during the soviet era, as described by yuri bezmenov, to demoralize people in western civilizations and slowly subvert them by convincing them that - giving up liberty, as well as other important and basic restraints such as "don't steal", somehow makes society better/freer/more efficient, which is of-course false.
but the real people at fault, are those westerners who fall for these demoralizing subversion tactics, due to their willful ignorance of history, or their lack of courage to do what's right, or their temptation to give up a bit of these basic morals in order to get something for nothing. this then accumulates into a moral debt, and when it becomes too high, the price is paid in crisis, tyranny, death and chaos.
the argument about the jews is very tiresome. the middle east hasn't had a shortage of crisis death tyranny and chaos. a large part of this is of their own doing because the islamic philosophy is largely built on "conquering", like mohommed, other potentially non offending states (a.k.a. stealing/plundering them, unjustly) and also "punishing by death" "infidels" of all kinds (a.k.a. deprive every individual of individual opinion, individual rights and personal liberty)
so you can see the seeds of immorality are already built into the theology, and as a result the debt of islamic states in the middle east accumulates, leading to constant injustices by the authorities, constant war between states, constant local conflicts between families, constant conflict within families which sacrifice their own children, and all of this goes as payment to the debt of immorality. it's all built on the basic philosophy of the religion, and in islam, those are - to steal, oppress, punish arbitrarily, hide the truth out of fear. you can hardly build any moral stable society on these.
those islamic societies that do function properly, are either wholly ignorant of islam and only have a basic vague idea of believing in god while reciting the untranslated arabic text of the quran ignorantly, or they have specifically selected only the parts of the religion that is in line with basic western morality principles.
now take as example north england, where they have not done ether of those two things. the debt accumulates, of the immorality of allowing islamic gangs to rape girls. the debt further accumulates due to the authorities' lack of willingness and abundance cowardice or corruption that prevents them to do what's right, to bring the criminals to justice. all of this sets out the pathway to crisis, of potential riots against the corruption, and/or a tyrannical government that cracks down on free speech. then the debt to morality further accumulates due to the cowardice of today's generations who are in positions of authority to defend basic individual human rights.
in addition, wherever christianity has engaged in wars based on religion alone, we still tend to look upon this type of war as unjust even if people in the past have had the need/desire to partake. this is set out by the 10 commandments that are still taken as the primary recommendation of the religion. "not dong war" has priority over "doing war"
but in islam, it is not only seen as desirable, it is embedded as a recommendation to partake in war for the sake of the religion, to emulate the perfect warlord mohommed. "doing war" is always a priority. "not doing war" means you're weak, so get conquered.
i'm not saying that the islamic states/islamists today aren't being manipulated by foreign interests, they probably are. but it may be israel, or it may be china - both are probable, but if such a thing was going on for certain, i'd sooner blame the chinese communist propagandists. if the soviet union was anything to judge by, they have their political science of subversion on point, and can easily through propaganda exploit the seeds of immorality of islamic religion(s) by pinning them up against each other.