@Rude @p @allison @georgia @moth
This is incredibly true. Loli fetish stuff isn't my thing, but it's still really obvious to me that anime lolis are a lot less gross than actual humans.

They appeal to people who just want a cute and innocent character without the glaring imperfections of real people and adults.
@promethea @Rude @allison @georgia @moth

> it's still really obvious to me that anime lolis are a lot less gross than actual humans

Yeah, that's what I was getting at with the avoidance stuff. Not only is there nothing gross, there's no imperfection, not even a skin blemish. Sex is a messy, undignified activity; this bugs a lot of people that are new to this particular set of game mechanics.
@p @promethea @Rude @allison @moth blemishless anime adults exist. the cuteness factor isn't from perfection, it's from appearing like a child.
@georgia @Rude @allison @moth @promethea

> blemishless anime adults exist.

That was obviously a remark about anime in general. Why hentai's more popular with teenagers than adults.

> the cuteness factor isn't from perfection, it's from appearing like a child.

There are actual children. There are 3D renderings. Why prefer loli to those? I've accounted for that; you cannot, and don't want to even consider any ideas that would allow you to account for them.

So, think and answer: what would have to be different for you to like that? This whole "because these are broken people, disguised pedophiles" is not just facile, it's a line of reasoning that you would have been applying to lesbians if your sensibilities were formed in a time and place where that was considered deviant. Your tack every time is the same tack an incurious church lady takes. Think about it for a minute, stop clutching your pearls and try to actually consider the thing from a different perspective.
@p @Rude @allison @moth @promethea the most ardent of lolicons often do also masturbate to 3D renders, it's just not as socially acceptable to talk about.
your invocation of homosexuality is pathetic. kids can't consent to sex.
you are asserting a firm boundary between 2D and 3D tastes, i am saying the border between the two is more liminal.

your argument has basically been "there is probably a reason people like lolicon besides them looking like kids, there has to be. just ask someone else about it, not me".
media can be criticized without the appellation of "church lady".
@georgia @Rude @allison @moth @promethea

> the most ardent of lolicons often do also masturbate to 3D renders, it's just not as socially acceptable to talk about.

I know someone that doesn't give a damn about social acceptability and regularly (ardently, even!) fuggs the loli. He's really easy to tag, should we ask him or do you prefer to keep up the church lady shit?

> you are asserting a firm boundary between 2D and 3D tastes, i am saying the border between the two is more liminal.

I am not. You are asserting that everyone views those drawings exactly the same way you do and I'm saying you can and should proceed as if you are missing something and in this case, you are. Not just missing something, but deliberately ignoring it when anyone points out something you don't appear to have considered.

I did say that you can't assume one given the other and that you are dead wrong about what goes on in anyone's head. Indoor cats get wiggy. Go do something dangerous.

> your argument has basically been "there is probably a reason people like lolicon besides them looking like kids, there has to be. just ask someone else about it, not me".

I said I'm not the best person to ask about its appeal. You don't want to ask

> media can be criticized without the appellation of "church lady".

I'm calling a spade a spade.

:bigred: Anyone that likes this is a pedophile.
:etna: That's stupid.
:bigred: I'M JUST CRITICIZING MEDIA

Fuck's sake, you're calling people pedophiles and you're seriously saying "I'm just criticizing media, bro!" You don't like it so you've declared everyone that does like it a pedophile. If the sky-blue pleather flat fits, church lady, then wear it.
@p @Rude @allison @moth @promethea i said most probably also have pedophilic fantasies, not that all are pedophiles.


@sjw hey faggot what about lolis appeals to you
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I honestly don't know what makes lolis appealing. Why do I like incest? Why omorashi? I have no clue, maybe because it's taboo.
Why do so many women have rape fantasies, yet none of them enjoy being raped?
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@matrix @allison @p @promethea @moth @Rude @sjw that point has been brought up. i don't believe people who want to fugg lolis want to actually fuck kids irl, i said they probably fantasize about it. just as women who read rape hentai fantasize about being raped irl.
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