@waltercool @matrix I can also say a rock is a bird it wouldnt make the rock into a bird we are not living in a fantasy world if it looks exactly like a little child its a little child I dont think its okay in any circumstance but maybe its better than the possible alternative then again I dont know how drawn cp or cp impacts rates of child rape it might encourage that behavior

@Mevie @matrix But cartoons ARE a fantasy world. There are not human involved except the artist.

I personally don’t know how people would assimilate cartoons with humans, proportions are way too different on everything.

The tricky question happens on 3D CGI loli/shota/others… but it’s still tricky as may need to “cancel” all Hollywood… all those moves about killers, rapists, violence, racism, war… etc may impact on someone with frustration or mental illness.

@waltercool @matrix 1. You dont understand my point. In a fantasy world this is possible, but we are in the real world and have real world rules. Like gravity. It can be a 200 year old demon in Narnia. But we are in the real world where this is drawn child porn. Clearly not as bad but ew. 2. Its one thing to consume something and an entirely different thing to consume something which is targeted for you. A normal person would not watch cp and jerk off to it, a pedophile would. Content with murder is not exclusive to murderers. Even if you jerk off to murders or dead bodies you are not necessarily a pedophile. Being a murder is something you did, being a pedophile is something you are. I never claimed watching looking at loli will make you into a pedophile.

@waltercool @matrix Necessarily a murderer* sorry for typos

@Mevie @matrix I agree “most of the parts”.

For pedophiles and other rapists, “Amen and Attack!”. No question.

The reason why CP content is forbidden, it’s because the material involves a molested child, which is never acceptable.

In case of Loli/Shota/Futa/Furry/?/others I don’t see a problem, there is no human involved. It’s no different than drawing IDK a superhero killing a villain.

With some data, at Japan, they sell that content freely “with drawn censorship”. They have 1/100,000 “rape” cases. USA has 27.3/100,000 “rape” cases.

Now, to the point likely… does sexual drawn content make you potentially rapist? If yes, then we should also forbid any violent content at media content because could be used for anyone with mental issues as well… and Hollywood makes them 4K! If the response is no, then we fully agree.

@waltercool @matrix Its still content for pedophiles. I wasnt saying its going to make you into a rapist. I said I am not going to follow Matrix because it makes me feel sick. And I am not sure if it encourages illegal activity or helps reducing it.

@waltercool @matrix Reduce*

@Mevie @matrix Well, we might not reach an agreement I guess… which is okay.

In terms of legality, yes, you are correct. At some countries it’s illegal to make/reproduce any media related about a relationship between a minor and an adult… but you know…

@waltercool @matrix I am not saying it should be forbidden I'm saying its pedophilia

pedos get the rope no exceptions (:

@waltercool @Mevie @matrix

@bbb @waltercool @Mevie @matrix No, antis should get the rope, if anything. Antis aren't heroes and don't care about kids. Antis are just NPCs when it comes to sexuality. Society indoctrinates you to think sexuality is worse than murder and then magically not after some arbitrary age and you don't have the balls or intelligence to question that. Age of consent laws violate sexual autonomy and exist to repress youth sexuality. We don't need AoC laws to punish actual sexual crimes.

@waltercool @matrix I am not coming from an aggressive place by the way.