@applejack
You can do that too. The law might object but morally you didn't do anything wrong.
@waltercool

@matrix @applejack @waltercool Piracy is always morally correct.

@Usagi
No
@applejack @waltercool

@matrix @applejack @waltercool It is fite me you wont

@matrix @Usagi @applejack @waltercool
>Piracy is bad

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@Charfuhrer @matrix @applejack @waltercool nose noises intensify.

But no honestly piracy is amoral. It's not even gray, it's just morally neutral, not "correct". That's just bait when in reality the actual thing about piracy is that it as an action is sometimes unethical subjectively at the worst but positive economically at the best. In all cases "lost sales" is a fallacious idea which is worthlessly vague and indefensible when challenged, especially considering that pirates who do not eventually buy the game anyway never would have in the first place.

All of this and more paints Piracy to be a consumer-based monopoly on risk-free ventures which corporations H A A A A A A T E. Piracy can be summed up simply in the following sentence;

Piracy is a valid, third, competitive option to the otherwise exploitative binary of choice provided by the entertainment industry, and is one of the only meaningful ways of fighting back against horrible business practices without shooting yourself in the foot for it.

@Charfuhrer @applejack @Usagi @waltercool No

@matrix @Charfuhrer @Usagi @waltercool Cmon, those jews deserved those hypothetical lost profits you deprived them of by copying data

@applejack @Charfuhrer @Usagi @waltercool Yes, if you don't think a thing is worth the money, don't use it.

@matrix @Charfuhrer @Usagi @waltercool Why?

@applejack @Charfuhrer @Usagi @waltercool Because resources, time and work went into the initial product and some goes into distributing it.

@matrix @Charfuhrer @Usagi @waltercool And? You're not making any connection. You consent to make a product, you consent to distribute it, other people use their own hardware to copy it, there's no infraction

@matrix @applejack @Charfuhrer @waltercool how about; It's worth the money but the people it would be going to do not deserve it, or there is no reasonable method to obtain it, therefore I will consume it all the same whilst not giving jack shit to the bad actors involved.

@Usagi @applejack @waltercool @Charfuhrer No, if they deserve it is part of the value. If you don't think they deserve it don't use it.
If you consume without paying YOU are the bad actor.
The only exception is probably abandonware or content the government censored. While still technically stealing, the people behind it have no way of getting your money.

@matrix @Usagi @waltercool @Charfuhrer "They deserve to get payed because I say so, even if everyone consents" generally comes more from socialist types than libertarian types

>If you don't think they deserve it don't use it
Why?

> YOU are the bad actor
According to who?

>While still technically stealing
Nothing is stolen. They lose nothing. You posted the same NFT memes as everyone else about copying data, and that's all it is

@applejack @Usagi @waltercool @Charfuhrer The conversation started around piracy and piracy implies lack of consent. If the owner consents then it isn't piracy.

Why? If the thing someone is selling was valuable enough to you, that value would overweight your moral objections to who deserves what and you would pay for it. If that doesn't happen you don't need to have it.

According to who? I dunno who's the authority on that.
Bad actor in this case is someone who breaks or undermines contracts which is what piracy is.

I'm memeing on nfts because it's reinventing shit that already exists and does it poorly, not because I'm against intelectual property. Afaik they just store a md5 hash meaning I change 1 pixel, hash changes and therefore I made a new thing I can mint.
Also the actual content is on Google Drive or some other cloud.

@matrix
Someone mentioned #CloudflareSteam.

You have a solumn duty to not use CloudflareSteam.

@applejack @Usagi @waltercool @Charfuhrer

@dsfgs
I didn't know Steam used Cloudflare. For some reason I assumed Steam built their own CDN.
@applejack @Usagi @waltercool @Charfuhrer

@matrix @dsfgs @applejack @Usagi @waltercool @Charfuhrer i think they partially use multiple CDNs depending on region and mostly for static media content (i.e. store screenshots, posters etc), i don't think they're using cloudflare for pages and not for game downloads.

Also best i can tell steam isn't blocked in russia, but payment options are blocked, at some point paypal was still available but then paypal itself pulled out, you can still use wallet balance and possibly obtain gift cards/ask friends to gift you money.

@hj
The Cf'Steam webpages are Cf'd, last we checked.

@applejack @matrix @Charfuhrer @Usagi @waltercool

@hj @applejack @matrix @Charfuhrer @Usagi @waltercool
We check for Cf by bringing up the NetworkTab in TorBrowser with Ctrl+Shift+E.

@matrix @applejack @waltercool @Charfuhrer I think I will use it anyway :^)