I think that Seinheiser 560S might have been an retarded choice for a phone...........
I think it doesn't have enough power to drive them fully.

I don't think even my integrated soundcard is enough........

I'm pretty sure having headphones somewhere between 50%-80% volume is probably a sign of that

Is Seven Nation Army supposed to have a slight hiss in the background?

@lunarised
Thanks. I've never heard it there so I want to know if I'm hearing inadequacy of the DAC or not

@matrix

The hiss sounds like a cymbal fade out to me, so if that seems to be what you're hearing, its all good
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I called it hiss but static is probably a better word to use and I could hear it immediately once I hit play. It's the first song I heard in though so I dunno.

@matrix @lunarised what's the Ohms on the headphones? You probably need a dac
@matrix @lunarised yeah there's your problem, most standard devices drive 30 Ohms, if that

@coyote @lunarised High impedance headphones are like 200 and higher though

@matrix @lunarised but standard impedance is probably lower than 120 for your device

@coyote
It isn't just impedance that's important but also sensitivity.

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@matrix @coyote

When you say sensitivity, I assume you're referring to frequency response?

That will change a fair bit depending in the gain setting of your amp.
Although I've never come across a situation where static would come through due to not enough oomph driving cans


Much to think about

@lunarised @coyote I mean the thing that's shown as shown as dB/V or SPL/V.

I don't have an amp.

@lunarised @matrix You can't trade sensitivity for ohms, that's just not how that works.

Your phone is not powering the headphones properly, hence the quiet. You need a more powerful headphone amp, or headphones that require less power.

A shorter cable than stock will not stop audible hiss/noise/static.

Oh, and Jack White is a notorious audiophile, AKA he records all his albums with analog studio equipment on tape, you're probably hearing the hiss from the analog tape equipment.
@coyote @matrix

Sorry, wasn't implying you could trade, well at least wasn't meaning to.

Jack White is one of those Audiophiles that has jumped off the deep end imo. In the year of our lord, digital recording is mathematically perfect on almost all avenues, and to me (and a bunch of experts on the matter) people like Jack White and Neil Young have opinions that cannot be justified as "better quality"
NB: Knowing about signal quality is literally my IRL job

Posting this gem of an article for the unfortunate few who havent read it

https://web.archive.org/web/20190306141703/https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
@lunarised @matrix the point of using analog equipment isn't to be representative IMO, even if some say it is for quality. Nothing like some odd order natural harmonics to give some warmth to the recording. Lots of people don't tolerate the noise though.

@coyote
So I downloaded a few FLAC albums of the white stripes and I think you are right, I think it's a hiss from a tape. Jack White is a retard.
The shorter cable is better imho, unless I'm huffing major copium. The volume is now enough at 50%.
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Also the short cable is straight up 3,5mm, while the long default one isn't so they ship a conversion with it.

@matrix @lunarised Try Cowboy Bebop - Blue or No Disc (albums) they are very clean

The shorter a cable is the less noise it has, technically, but the stock cable is already well below the noise floor and I doubt it'll make a difference unless the problem is elsewhere in your chain (amp probably)
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