the truth is half the class of first year CS students change their major by midterms already

@Moon
What I find weird is that basics of programming is the first great filter, even at my previous uni where they teach it with Python and the hardest thing they want is text based tic-tac-toe.

@matrix the first group of people are the people who can't into loops, followed by recursion probably. also a lot of people suddenly realize it's not going to be "fun" like they thought.

@Moon
Nested loops can be a bitch, but I would assume that people who want to study CS have tried programming atleast once.