@matrix saints row 4 was pretty good in my opinion, it was fun and even more sandboxy than 3, albeit rehashing existing content.
@hj I don't think Saints Row did GTA better, just different. Out of the Saints Row games I probably like 3 the most and SR4 should have been a SR3 expansion.
@matrix GTAs focus on taking itself too seriously with "real gangsta shit" stories, while saints row is mostly about "imma cheat to give me a tank and a rocket launcher and go apeshit" which is what people do in GTA
I still think that Saints Row 3 managed to make a better GTA than GTA itself ever did, like they get it, they get why people play GTA, Saints Row 4 made it even better. Probably could have been an update/dlc to SS3 but whatever, i like it more.