"Feeding yourself is unpaid labor"

Socialists manage to be both evil and braindead at the same time

@matrix they teach capitalists to think like this actually. it's not as dumb as it sounds to look at your hourly wage and then look at how long it takes to cook and decide if its still worth cooking or ordering out.

there's an amount of wealth where the productivity loss from doing shit you hate (mopping the floor) is worse than hiring a maid

@icedquinn Well Marx did write Das Capital.
Yeah, it's called opportunity cost if I'm not mistaken, except capitalists don't frame it like evil troglodites.
There is cost to running the mess halls and that cost would add up to the cost of the food which depending on your situation could be more than if you didn't work and prepared it yourself. Which would mean you would try to kick in economies of scale to lower the costs, however that would create a gigantic point of failure and also the food would be shit and unhealthy which demoralizes and lowers productivity. He would probably say the messhall should be free but then he's just putting his unpaid labor onto someone else.
There is also opportunity cost in waiting for the communal kitchen to become available.

@matrix i think its supposed to be built in to the apartment complex?

we kinda used to do that. have longhouses where the tribe eats dinners etc.

@icedquinn I feel like my reply already addresses that

@matrix leftys don't usually think about how the labor for that kind of shit gets allocated.

i tried to as some kind of debt token. nobody wanted to engage with that debate tho.

i can see people trying to argue for the kitchen as a tech shop / hackerspace scenario where you pay some small rental and can borrow the kitchen knives an an oven for an hour because trying to kit every human on the planet with a full personal oven is expensive as shit.