@matrix turns out when you build a culture around extreme selfishness and narcissism coupled with widespread poverty and lack of social and economic mobility, people don't behave well

@animeirl Except US has one of the most richest poor people.
Poverty doesn't cause crime, but crime does cause poverty.
And if it was selfishness and narcissism, just letting them do it isn't going to help anything.

@matrix Poverty absolutely does cause crime. Impoverished people end up living in poorer, crime ridden neighborhoods, more exposed to crime, more likely to get involved, it's a self-reinforcing cycle that never ends due to the incredibly low socioeconomic mobility in the USA.

@animeirl If that was the case, you would see it across populations, locations and history and you would see increase in crime during economic recession and decrease during economic upturn, but you don't see it.
However, what you always see is increase in poverty due to increase in lawlessness.

You have a 2 people. Both make $80 a day. Both buy the same items daily. Person A pays $20, person B pays $30 for them. Person A has item/cash stolen every 720 days, person B does every 60 days. Everything else is the same. After 10 years, who is poorer?

@matrix do you see an increase in crime and social instability during times of economic inequality, thats often when civil wars happen

@animeirl again, you see crime and/or social instability which causes economic inequality which can compound into a civil war

@matrix We agree on the end result, but I think economic inequality is the cause, not the symptom
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@animeirl Yes and I can't say it literally has 0 effect, but I think there are too many inconsistencies for it to be a primary cause.

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