iz dat a takkit agreement?? 
@Hyperhidrosis @matrix worst part is magnetic tapes are exactly what you'd use for long-term digital storage. its also cheaper
@Hyperhidrosis @matrix everything is on 1 microsd card
Goalkeeper 
How much you want to bet they put it all on Elon's icloud?
@boyperpia @Hyperhidrosis @matrix its disaster recovery step 0, absolutely 0 IQ move. Not to imply this was a direct decision by Elon but it has me curious how Tesla, SpaceX, etc. handle DR and long term backups.
@chog9 @Hyperhidrosis @matrix there's probably some sysadmin named Gregbulon crying at home after a pajeet told him to modernize his setup
too bad the doge team are an elite group of the dumbest hand picked whites and spics today @boyperpia @Hyperhidrosis @matrix
@chog9 @pernia @matrix @Hyperhidrosis they dont,hence why they hire subhuman pajeets and want even more of them
@matrix Magnetic tape could store shit-ton of data they were once used like that that’s nothing new.
salty_apollyon 
@matrix They didn't say they were throwing away the previous records...with that said is there something wrong with having a backup of a backup?
@waff @matrix i wouldn't presume on such little info, we don't really know what their data recovery plans are.
if they sell their capital, they're not "saving" as much as they are gutting themselves. "saving" would be more like cutting costs, and the "power consumption" of the tape readers i highly doubt is 1M, much if they replaced it with hardrives.
if they sell their capital, they're not "saving" as much as they are gutting themselves. "saving" would be more like cutting costs, and the "power consumption" of the tape readers i highly doubt is 1M, much if they replaced it with hardrives.
@pernia @matrix oh I doubt its a milloon, but its probably in the thousands. Readers can be bulky depending on the actual type of data tape used...ive seen some govts retire at e waste centers that are about the width of a 2010 sun fire server and weigh around 60 or so pounds (and only read one tape). You also got to factor in the actual computers that were used to read them that likely used scsi or an even older readable format that probably used a shit ton of watts and you have your source of heavy power consumption. Luckily there are industrial computers out there as well as legacy expansion cards that allow one to access these formats with a lower power draw. If they were able to transfer these old tapes...likely to a solid state format, it is likely they already have this equipment. Then again this is all my speculation on the vague information provided.
@pernia @waff @matrix my guess is that the 1m probably refers mostly to the man-hours spent writing and managing the tapes. they probably have 2-3 people they pay just for that, and they're probably throwing in some fraction of the salary of the other people in whichever department to that figure so they can make the claim.
that being said, even if it is that expensive, 1m is peanuts considering the GSA's apparent remit is keeping records of real estate transactions.
that being said, even if it is that expensive, 1m is peanuts considering the GSA's apparent remit is keeping records of real estate transactions.
@waff @pernia @matrix
>have functional machinery for obsolete storage media
>have 150+ backup machines for spare parts and redundancy
>throw it all out
>"we're saving money because we use less power"
Your reasoning here is very misguided. Power costs are nothing compared to the price of repairing and maintaining physical hardware that isn't manufactured anymore.
>have functional machinery for obsolete storage media
>have 150+ backup machines for spare parts and redundancy
>throw it all out
>"we're saving money because we use less power"
Your reasoning here is very misguided. Power costs are nothing compared to the price of repairing and maintaining physical hardware that isn't manufactured anymore.
@Hephaestic @pernia @matrix companies have been doing that for years, and you can't act like cloning and placing in cold storage doesnt have its benifits
@Hephaestic @waff @matrix banks still use magnetic tape, because by law they need to keep their records a certain amount of time.
you can buy tape readers new for like $200. ofc they range between that and $10000+ for enterprise shit
the tape itself is like $150 for 18TB, so like $7.5 per TB uncompressed.
and you can buy all of these things new.
and its not some "ancient" hardware that needs maintenance, they're electronics. when have you given "maintenance" to your dvd player, for example? at most you keep the tape in a dry, temperate place.
you can buy tape readers new for like $200. ofc they range between that and $10000+ for enterprise shit
the tape itself is like $150 for 18TB, so like $7.5 per TB uncompressed.
and you can buy all of these things new.
and its not some "ancient" hardware that needs maintenance, they're electronics. when have you given "maintenance" to your dvd player, for example? at most you keep the tape in a dry, temperate place.
@pernia @matrix @Hephaestic Well yes that is the most modern ones but some people have not upgraded their high capacity tape mechanisms in years.
@pernia @matrix @Hephaestic I was thinking they probably had stuff like tk50s considering how old some of the records are. For reference here is what an 100mb disc looked like during the time https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/3m_compactape_tape_cartridge_for_tk50_drive.html
and an average drive
and an average drive
@waff @matrix @Hephaestic you know the power consumption of that? i also doubt that needs maintenance, looks like any old piece of hardware
@pernia @matrix @Hephaestic Well thats an external unit but I would presume a lot considering it has actual robotic arms inside of it to move the tape to the head...and not small ones like the type you see inside of cassette shelf units or a vcr. this is just an example of one type that I know of cause I have some of the tapes but I am sure there are ones from multiple different eras.
@moth_ball @matrix You dont think for a second it would be the machinery used to read them?
statistics be raysist cuh 
@matrix there's no way they didn't do this in the shittiest, cheapest way possible
@matrix chesterton's fence has been murdered and raped by elon's le reddit army
:gondola_head: 
@matrix "modern digital record" aka cloud that will loose and leak the data to foreign attackers.
@matrix I guess nobody told them all of gmail is magnetic tape
@matrix@gameliberty.club this isn't real... Right?
@Wiz check their account 
@matrix@gameliberty.club it's a parody account, right? ??? RIGHT????
@matrix america is doomed 
@matrix I hope they didn't put btrfs on that RAID 0 stack they're probably using now 
@matrix tbf, they could be using really old tape drives that needed to be replaced anyways. They never specified, so we just don't know.
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