@lain @matrix I wouldn't care about those honestly. That comes with the crowd which is mostly antifa or closely related. What is a bummer though are the actual tech talks hidden behind flinta.

@phnt @matrix *dyes my hair badly* umm can i join now?

@lain @matrix I mean, I could shave and that would be it. My hair is more than enough long to fit in.

@phnt @matrix CCC was always kinda cringe because it's old school lefty hackers, it's just more obvious now becuase it's zeitgeisty cringe. still plenty of good talks there, at least.

@lain @phnt @matrix you forgot German. Old school lefty German hackers. The ultimate cringe.

@pwm @phnt @matrix @lain defcon is the same almost.

its full of idiots doing the whole "tee hee hee we're such nerds" types of people.

@ins0mniak @phnt @matrix @lain and yet they are all gainfully employed. Maybe I should have been a tee hee hee nerd.

@pwm @ins0mniak @phnt @matrix just becuase you're cringe doesn't mean you're not competent. even sonic fans have jobs.

@lain @ins0mniak @pwm @phnt @matrix
Just because your competent doesn't mean you get a job. Or money for your work.

@lain definitely, DIY stuff is always interesting, but I'm willing to bet 20€ that the word "fascism/fascist" will be said at least once by the presenter