oshy
UK internet censorship is getting absolutely insane.
The UKs laws are going to be a problem for the indieweb as a whole. I imagine a lot of sites and services are going to have to entirely ban UK IP addresses.

This started a few months ago but it keeps getting worse.
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@oshy I don't understand whey cant they just ignore UK authorities if they don't have a UK presence

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oshy
@matrix Well that was the going idea because literally NO ONE hosts in the UK, but

They started sending out fines to people in other countries and it can result in lots of legal ramifications that can make international travel hard or through some legal process you may actually owe them the money, so most people have just started banning UK users.
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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

@oshy does that really matter unless you travel to the UK?

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@matrix @oshy Literally it's because the UK says they have jurisdiction over them (LOL). Though maybe not for long

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oshy
@VD15 @matrix The end result of this is the UK is basically just banned from the wider net and there is a UK-only internet like how China does it (this is very bad)
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@oshy @matrix We're already worse than china in some aspects. A lot of this legislation is coming out because elon won't censor people hard enough on tw*tter, everyone else be damned.

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oshy
@VD15 @matrix Yeah the laws in the UK right now are absolutely horrific nightmare shit. I've always wanted to go there for vacationing, but theres no way I can finically support the current regime in good conscious.
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@oshy @matrix Fair, honestly. I probably wouldn't holiday here either given all the shit that's been going on. Part of me hopes all this crap gets overturned in a few years, but I'm running out of breath to hold.

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@VD15 @oshy @matrix How is the recent "social media loicense" law going? Heard about it a few months ago and their definition of "social media" basically meant anyone running their own mail server needs a loicense.
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@phnt @oshy @matrix Hasn't passed the lords yet (praying it doesn't). I don't even think it's been debated. The bill makes mention of public vs private communication, so I think mail servers and messaging services are exempt.

You'll be delighted to hear that baroness benjamin has finally figured out how to get an SSL cert for her website, though.

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/4285 https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/67647/documents/8737

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@VD15 retarded ukniggers lol
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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

@VD15 @oshy I know they claim they do (and companies often listen, UK government and nonprofits were behind lot of 2010s internet censorship), but do they actually have jurisdiction? I have trouble thinking of a mechanism.

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@matrix @oshy AFAIK, all ofcom can do is say "gibs", but unless the company has a UK presence, they can't really enforce anything beyond blocking the website. They've collected jack shit out of all the fines they've issued under the OSA. Foreign courts can just tell them to get fucked.

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