Link to Rob Colbert’s comment disparaging ActivityPub: https://gab.com/shadowknight412/posts/104220064117832818
I will have to sit on this a while before replying to him. I can’t even decode my own feelings yet. Still too shocked.
To be fair he seems interested in valid counter arguments:
https://gab.com/shadowknight412/posts/104220159780270475
He also just spent a likely-low-sleep week getting his server operating again. To me that means at least three nights of proper rest before his brain is functioning well enough for creative thought.
@billstclair
He should leave #Gab. It's not worth it. They are needlessly working him to death, having him fix problems that shouldn't have been there in the first place, but were placed there by rushed ineptitude.
@issdeinschnitzel @death@husk.site @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @alex
@realcaseyrollins
We have our own thoughts about Gab.
Everything we've seen from #Cloucflare indicate that their priority is in creating and tracking #radicalised persons, the "#freedom" angle is the #massLine to cover the #classLine, being #militarisation of the #internet.
In this context it makes perfect sense for them to try to isolate #Gab users. Isolation will help to breed the #extremism that a few want.
@billstclair @issdeinschnitzel @death @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @alex
@realcaseyrollins @billstclair @issdeinschnitzel @death @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @alex
We would like to thank @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo for helping to open our eyes to Gab, late last year.
@dsfgs
Valid point. Still, I disagree. I am beginning to suspect that the goal was just to dump Nazis into the #Fediverse and lower their own load.
@billstclair @issdeinschnitzel @death@husk.site @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @alex @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo
@realcaseyrollins
But you see "sunlight is the best disinfectant".
This is why we didn't like the mastodon.social (again #Cloucflare at the time!!!) campaign to isolate the Gab users.
Thankfully, not all the instances banned #Gab. So the light was able to break through.
We believe one of two things will... (1/2)
@billstclair @issdeinschnitzel @death @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @alex
We believe one of two things will happen.
Gab will magically find money (and resources) for an aggressive campaign to onboard #dissaffectedMen between 18-35 yo.
Or it will close down.
Judging by the state of things, our bet is on the former.
@billstclair @issdeinschnitzel @death @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @alex
@dsfgs
No chance of them getting that money, hating on Jews as they do
@billstclair @issdeinschnitzel @death@husk.site @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @alex
Why do people think that Gab hates on Jews? Yes, there are definite Jew haters and other haters on Gab, just as there are everywhere else. But they are a small minority. A handful of mutes got the noisy ones out of my feed. The only difference is that being reported for expressing hate on Gab is not a reason to be censored or silenced there, only actual illegal speech under US law.
But mention Gab on Gargron's instance, in any but a negative light, and he'll boot you. So who's the hater?
@billstclair
You do know I was joking right?
@issdeinschnitzel @death@husk.site @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @dsfgs @alex
Missed that. It's so hard to tell nowadays, with so much hate about having an opinion different from The Party's.
@billstclair @realcaseyrollins @alex @dsfgs @SandiaMesa @niggaflamebuttholeaids @death @issdeinschnitzel If we simplify it & neglect that #Gab spews a concentration of #Trump-aligned values (#xenophobia, racism, misogyny, homophobia, elitism, anti-public healthcare, anti-public education, pro-forced birth, anti-gun control, etc), the mere fact that Gab is on #CloudFlare is sufficient at least for non-CloudFlare nodes to cut ties.
I had never heard the CloudFlare hate before. The fact that they haven’t cancelled Gab is a big plus for them in my book.
Interesting rewriting of the rhetoric on your part: “pro-forced birth” instead of “pro-life” or “anti-abortion”. “anti-gun control” instead of “pro-2A”. Makes your opinion on both crystal clear.
So you know my opinion...
If some guy squirts his sperm into you when you’re fertile, it ain’t my business how you deal with it, until the brat is born. Just don’t ask me to pay for it.
But you’ll take my guns from my cold, dead hands.
I don’t like bigotry, but it shouldn’t be a crime. Crime is intentional, aggressive harm of a non-consenting person or their property. Period. Your feewings are YOUR problem. And I encourage self defense.
https://billstclair.com/racism-is-a-right.html
@billstclair @realcaseyrollins @dsfgs @SandiaMesa @niggaflamebuttholeaids @death @alex @issdeinschnitzel The reason "#ProLife" is usually inappropriate is b/c those who describe themselves as such are typically anti-public healthcare, anti-welfare, anti-worker's rights, anti-gun control, anti- #coronavirus lockdown, etc. IOW, the opposite of pro-life on all issues apart from women's rights. The truly pro-life ppl aren't on gab.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @billstclair @dsfgs @SandiaMesa @niggaflamebuttholeaids @death@husk.site @alex @issdeinschnitzel To claim that those policies are attacks on life are unfounded and disgusting.
@billstclair @dsfgs @SandiaMesa @niggaflamebuttholeaids @death @alex @issdeinschnitzel @realcaseyrollins Of course healthcare for all is pro-life. Supporting the elitist stance of healthcare only for ppl who can afford it means blocking preventitive healthcare from some ppl. Preventitive healthcare saves lives, so of course it's pro-life
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @billstclair @dsfgs @SandiaMesa @niggaflamebuttholeaids @death@husk.site @alex @issdeinschnitzel I agree that healthcare for all is pro life, but of course by "healthcare for all" you mean "nationalized healthcare coverage plans", don't you? 🙂
@realcaseyrollins @issdeinschnitzel @alex @death @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @dsfgs @billstclair i oppose all plans that would deny anyone healthcare. Public healthcare and/or private but inclusive are all fair enough from a pro-life standpoint.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @issdeinschnitzel @alex @death@husk.site @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @dsfgs @billstclair Because healthcare can just be provided out of thin air, so it's injustice for it to not be free.
@realcaseyrollins @billstclair @dsfgs @SandiaMesa @niggaflamebuttholeaids @death @alex @issdeinschnitzel A true pro-lifer doesn't let finance stand in the way of life. So as soon as you talk about a position that rationalizes denying healthcare on the basis of financing, you're not talking about a pro-life stance
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @billstclair @dsfgs @SandiaMesa @niggaflamebuttholeaids @death@husk.site @alex @issdeinschnitzel Because healthcare can just be provided out of thin air, so it's injustice for it to not be free.
@realcaseyrollins @issdeinschnitzel @alex @death @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @dsfgs @billstclair You're confusing gun control with gun prohibition. Team gun control is very much in favor of self-defense (otherwise they would be on team gun prohibition)
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @issdeinschnitzel @alex @death@husk.site @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @dsfgs @billstclair Gun control prohibits gun use to individuals. Sorry for confusing gun prohibition with prohibition of guns.
@realcaseyrollins @billstclair @dsfgs @SandiaMesa @niggaflamebuttholeaids @death @alex @issdeinschnitzel Ok, you clearly don't know what gun *control* is. Gun control can be implemented in many ways, but they need not deny firearms to ppl who are safe with them (e.g. ppl w/out a history of violence or some mental illnesses)
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @billstclair @dsfgs @SandiaMesa @niggaflamebuttholeaids @death@husk.site @alex @issdeinschnitzel Okay and who is "safe" lol
That's entirely subjective.
Let's say I run the country and have gun control. I think homosexuality is a mental illness, and let's say the scientists go back to supporting this view. So we just strip guns away from all the gays? That's ludicrous, and a monstrous destruction of human rights.
@realcaseyrollins @issdeinschnitzel @alex @death @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @dsfgs @billstclair you would have to convince scientists to convince politicians 1st of all that homosexuality is a mental illness. You wouldn't, but if we say you manage to you would then have to make a convincing case that it's a mental illness that would compel violence or incompetence with safe gun handling.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @issdeinschnitzel @alex @death@husk.site @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @dsfgs @billstclair Yeah, because all people with any given mental condition have the same level of competence with safe gun handling.
@realcaseyrollins @billstclair @dsfgs @SandiaMesa @niggaflamebuttholeaids @death @alex @issdeinschnitzel statistics can sort that out. Are a majority of deaths by schizophrenic gun users in defense of someone in harms way, or did they lead to a conviction? These things are countable. There's not enough room for subjectivity to make a difference.
@issdeinschnitzel @alex @death @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @dsfgs @billstclair @realcaseyrollins A true pro-lifer is about finding the gun control balance that yields the fewest deaths (or the fewest deaths to non-aggressors). Achieving the optimum balance is subjective. You can't be pro-life on that issue and oppose subjectivity at the same time.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @issdeinschnitzel @alex @death@husk.site @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @dsfgs @billstclair Look if you're just gonna sit here and assume I have the worst motive, and say I am opposed to life I'm done with this conversation. You don't really know my motives and don't even care enough to ask.
For your part, I'm sure your motives are pure and it really seems like your heart is in the right place; it's just that you're a little misguided and the policies you support are counterintuitive to your goal, although you cannot see that just yet, and that's understandable.
@realcaseyrollins @billstclair @dsfgs @SandiaMesa @niggaflamebuttholeaids @death @alex @issdeinschnitzel the conversation turned into what it means to be pro-life, not whether your motives are "bad" or "good". But you are clearly not pro-life due to your opposition to gun control & prioritization of finance above healthcare for all. So if you've been calling yourself #prolife, it's inaccurate.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @billstclair @dsfgs @SandiaMesa @niggaflamebuttholeaids @death@husk.site @alex @issdeinschnitzel That only matters if you can go back in time and prevent shootings, because such stats cannot reliably tell us whether or not any particular individual will use a weapon for good or ill. Statistics can say in general, schizos kill people with gun, and that's fine. But that does not tell us if any given schizo will magically become murderous once given a gun.
Ah, public policy determined by statistics.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Mark Twain
Guess what? No matter what statistics say about people "like" me being able to safely use guns, I have the right to defend my life and loves ones, using tools that I find useful for that purpose. If you convince a jury to convict me of an actual crime (intentional harm of a non-consenting person or their property), and I am currently imprisoned for that, then you may deny me that right. Otherwise, not.
I realize that this is much more pro-gun than current US law. Good. "Shall not be infringed" brooks no exceptions. And the Bill of Rights is restrictions on the state, not on the rest of us.
@billstclair @realcaseyrollins @dsfgs @SandiaMesa @niggaflamebuttholeaids @death @alex @issdeinschnitzel Your error is in believing that *any* Constitutional right is absolute. No Constitutional rights are absolute & rightly so -- that can only lead to perverse outcomes.
As I said, my take on 2A disagrees with current US law. For me, 2A is absolute. No matter how many people vote otherwise, and no matter how many guys in black robes and wigs rule otherwise.
But then, I consider taxation to be extortion, a heinous crime, and want it to end, entirely. Fee for service, service contracts, and unanimous consent are the only moral options.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @issdeinschnitzel @alex @death@husk.site @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @dsfgs @billstclair Not really. Gun control is about limited rights to those the government deems worthy of them. Self defense is actually pro-life, not ant-life. That's not too hard for most people to figure out.
@realcaseyrollins @issdeinschnitzel @alex @death @niggaflamebuttholeaids @SandiaMesa @dsfgs @billstclair Gun control is about putting reasonable guns in the hands of safe, sane ppl. Of course this is to maximize life, so that ppl can protect the lives of themselves & others while reducing the sorts of gun ownership that can take many lives. Of course gun control is pro-life.