@Ox True; but forced pregnancies only happen in the case of rape, since the woman consents to the sex.
Saying that consenting to sex doesn't mean consenting to a pregnancy is akin to saying my consent to eat a Taki is apart from my consent to have a flaming butthole.
I mean, it's not like other duties aren't forced on parents; they are forced to feed their children, too.
it's impossible for us to reach agreement on this issue. i accept that.
aside, the comparison of growing, giving birth to, and nurturing a child for 18 years to taking a shit is just inappropriate. it simply doesn't convey the mammoth physical, emotional and financial task of child raising. your definition of forced pregnancy - also ignores those who use birth control and it goes awry, women diagnosed infertile who conceive unexpectedly, and many other situations. not to mention women pressured into having children by partners and family because of societal roles
@Ox This is largely generally fair. I didn't mean to compare having a hot bottom to birth by way of magnitude, but only in the realm of consent and risk. Sex kinda tends to lead to pregnancy sometimes, and that is a risk that one takes when having sex. As you rightly point out, non-abortive forms of birth control don't work 100%, which too is a risk one takes.
It's my personal belief that one doesn't have a moral obligation to be pro-life if you don't think a fetus is a human being, so I'd be fine to agree to disagree on that.
