i like ipv6 in theory but i really don't care about it in practice. ipv4 + nat + vpn if you need it is more than enough

@lain I don't particularly care for ipv6 more than any other 30 year old stillborn, however I dislike what an ugly hack nat is and how it prevents computers from actually talking to each other which in my opinion is the whole point of the internet. nat traversal with upnp and whatnot is a thing but again it's a hack to get around the shortcomings of another hack. I don't think every device needs a static address but connecting devices together without a middleman should be easy and straightforward. today's consoomer internet is built to allow you to consoom stuff from netflix's datacenter and that's it.

@sampo tbh i think non-consoomers can pay the 50 cent a month for a static ipv4

@lain @sampo I think Sampo's point here would be that if consoomers were encouraged to become non-consoomers, scarcity would jack the price up from 50 cent to something less palatable.

@guizzy @sampo that's not wrong. we'll have to see what we can do for the future (dhts?) but ipv6 aint it chief

@lain @sampo Indeed, IPv6 is a meme that's never going to take off.

@guizzy @lain @sampo IPv6 is the New Coke of networking protocols

@realcaseyrollins @guizzy @sampo a great success, even if the product is quickly phased out?

@lain @realcaseyrollins @guizzy @sampo
ipv6 wasn't phased out though. In fact all current OSes support it, and ISPs are in process of rolling it out. Due to sheer install base it will take yet more decades to fully roll it out but no alternatives/successors are even any close to relevance atm.

@loonycyborg @guizzy @realcaseyrollins @sampo there is, ipv4