Aaaand THIS is why @LemmyDev's hard coded censorship rules are stupid. Can't post a link to a current event story in the news. smh
@realcaseyrollins @LemmyDev Join a server which doesn't have silly censorship rules.
@Korsier @LemmyDev The only other ones are either far right or #MLP themed.
Maybe I will. But I'd prefer to wait til a more neutral #Lenny instance comes around. I could join the alt-right instance, but it was freaking tiring, what I did at #Gab was pretty mentally exhausting and time consuming and the only reason I could do it was cuz I was a single homeschooled dude at the time...arguing with racists isn't something i relish anymore
@realcaseyrollins @LemmyDev I'm of the view that the extremes of left and right are just as bad as each other in terms of preaching hatred and intolerance, but it is better to let bad ideas die in the light than fester in the dark.
@Korsier @LemmyDev @realcaseyrollins You can't both-sides that. Left-wing extremists don't hate on the basis of factors out of someone's control (race, religion, nationality, or sexual orientation), they're intolerant of the intolerant. How can you say hater haters are "just as bad" as those who hate natural characteristics outside of someone's control?
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @LemmyDev @realcaseyrollins The left hates anyone who disagrees with or even questions their ideology, and their ideology is deeply rooted in race, gender, sexual orientation (i.e. intersectionality). I believe in the conservative idea of judging people based on their character because we're all a minority of one.
@Korsier @realcaseyrollins @LemmyDev it's a perversion to take the liberal value of equal rights and income equality & create that reverse racism straw man, particularly at a time when income equality is still unachieved and blacks are twice as likely to fall victim to police brutality and even more disproportionately incarcerated.
@LemmyDev @realcaseyrollins @Korsier the idea of trusting people to judge others "based on their character" has failed, and conservatives have no remedial plan to correct that failure. Crying "reverse racism" clutches at straws to preserve a broken status quo. Of course the only real racists are those defending the status quo by calling their opposition what they themselves are guilty of.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @LemmyDev @realcaseyrollins I don't see how judging people based on their character has failed. Our society is organised around merit. The competent and hard working get to the top.
@Korsier @realcaseyrollins @LemmyDev First of all, you're neglecting the Peter Principle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle). Also, merit is just one of many factors. Those other factors are responsible for the gender pay gap.
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @realcaseyrollins @LemmyDev The primary causes of the gender pay gap are general differences in job interests between the genders (eg. Men are fast more likely than women to choose STEM fields, women are much more likely to choose social type occupations), men are more likely to work longer hours and be more committed to their job, and women take time out for child rearing. None of which indicates systemic sexism.
@Korsier @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @LemmyDev While this is true, it must be admitted that in certain sectors, such as Hollywood, there is a bit of a disparity.
@realcaseyrollins @Korsier @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @LemmyDev
Actors earn based on the crowds they draw. If the wages appear sexist then blame the public, because audiences determine Hollywood salaries
Supply and demand. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one
@AtlasFreeman @Korsier @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @LemmyDev Is that really true tho? I thought with the sexualization of women that a sexy woman would be a bigger draw than a sexy man.
@AtlasFreeman @LemmyDev @Korsier @realcaseyrollins it's a false dichotomy to pit "sexy face" vs. "acting ability". The demand is for ppl to look the part (in addition to skill to the extent that the role calls for it). Incidentally a sexy face is the most popular casting requirement. Hence why hiring models and actresses is exempt from discrimination laws.
@realcaseyrollins @Korsier @LemmyDev @AtlasFreeman This is also why the job description for cocktail waitresses in Las Vegas is "modeling".
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @Korsier @LemmyDev @AtlasFreeman
Yep. Yep. 100% agree. Lots of pretty actresses can't act, which we see in low budget films. However, lots of pretty actresses can REALLY act.
@realcaseyrollins @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @Korsier @LemmyDev
The intersection of good looks and acting skills results in the highest wages.
Supply and demand.
@AtlasFreeman @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @Korsier @LemmyDev True but what we're saying is that apex is lower than the equivalent male actor, in many if not most cases. That is all.
Women are being paid fairly comparatively to other women, that is not in dispute. But we're talking about in comparison to men.
@realcaseyrollins @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @Korsier @LemmyDev
"fairly"
Can we agree that Hollywood is greedy and opportunistic?
If women could draw crowds as large as those of their male counterparts, does anyone believe Hollywood would turn from that money?
@AtlasFreeman @LemmyDev @Korsier @realcaseyrollins when the intersection of the two factors is unnecessary, imposing the intersection (as the "free" market does in this case) limits the supply. Limiting the supply denies opportunities to otherwise suitable candidates. Vegas cocktail waitress gigs are good example of harm done by purist free market principles
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @LemmyDev @Korsier @realcaseyrollins
"when the intersection of the two factors is unnecessary"
Who decides what's necessary? In a market, the customers do, and they've decided based on ticket sales.
It's fine if you don't like that, but that's how things work in free markets and in socialism and communism it just becomes the black market.
@AtlasFreeman @realcaseyrollins @Korsier @LemmyDev the customers don't decide what is necessary. They decide what they /prefer/. If the cocktail waitress scandal were stopped, the casinos wouldn't lose business (they all compete with each other under the same rules)
@LemmyDev @Korsier @realcaseyrollins @AtlasFreeman just like if the US became wise enough to outlaw locking cellphones to plans (as Belgium has), all carriers would equally compete under the same rules that improve the market for consumers
@AtlasFreeman @realcaseyrollins @Korsier @LemmyDev instead, the 3 cellphone carriers compete in tricks and traps -- a competition that works against consumers
@realcaseyrollins @Korsier @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @LemmyDev
Supply and demand. Finding someone "sexy" is a much easier task for a studio than finding someone who's acting can elevate the movie
I don't think most people pay to see a sexy face on the screen. They want to see a good movie