@sofia Ah, I see. Yeah, if something is illogical, not much point in trying to understand it.
@realcaseyrollins i don't think i agree, you should try to understand it first in order to see if it's reasonable or not.
also, having some wrong ideas doesn't mean they can't contribute great ideas in related fields. that's true for marxists or chistians.
i'm thinking of the Frankfurt school or Sartre for example. on the christian side you could mention Kirkegaard or Georges Lemaître, who first proposed the big bang.
@sofia Fair. I think I mean more in the deeper "but wait, how does that make sense" and spending hours trying to figure it out, vs. merely understanding its mechanism and how it works. Understanding Marxism is good.
@realcaseyrollins okay, yeah. i agree. :)
@realcaseyrollins heh, i appreciate your fav.
i don't think the problem about marxism is it being "radical", i woudn't nessecarly say it is. i think the main problem is their belief in labour value and a rejection of (most of) economics. and they usually have a naive conception of the state as a "tool". but really, all of these problems are also prevalent in mainstream politics, albeit in a different form.