i should stop trying to "make sense" of marxism. people aren't marxist for the sense it makes.

first one to fave and follow this is my weird right-wing christan follower @realcaseyrollins , lol.

trust me, you have some other things you should try to make sense of, buddy 😜.

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@sofia You're quite right! I try to sway some, but I too have given up trying too hard to understand more radical viewpoints like Marxism.

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@realcaseyrollins heh, i appreciate your fav.

i don't think the problem about marxism is it being "radical", i woudn't nessecarly say it is. i think the main problem is their belief in labour value and a rejection of (most of) economics. and they usually have a naive conception of the state as a "tool". but really, all of these problems are also prevalent in mainstream politics, albeit in a different form.

@sofia Ah, I see. Yeah, if something is illogical, not much point in trying to understand it.

@realcaseyrollins i don't think i agree, you should try to understand it first in order to see if it's reasonable or not.

also, having some wrong ideas doesn't mean they can't contribute great ideas in related fields. that's true for marxists or chistians.

i'm thinking of the Frankfurt school or Sartre for example. on the christian side you could mention Kirkegaard or Georges Lemaître, who first proposed the big bang.

@sofia Fair. I think I mean more in the deeper "but wait, how does that make sense" and spending hours trying to figure it out, vs. merely understanding its mechanism and how it works. Understanding Marxism is good.

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The point of Leftism/Marxism is "kill the rich and blame them for my problems."

It's no different than gutter racists or your barista who thinks he'd be a better CEO of Starbucks.
@amerika @realcaseyrollins @sofia But some good has come out of Marxism. For example with without Marx there would be no Syndicalist, with out the Syndicalist there would be no Georges Sorel, with out Sorel there would be no Fascism (then Syndicalism being one of the many inspirations for Corporatism). Us Fascist share many if the same problems with Capitalism with Marx, we however disagree with class-war and have have the better solution.
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