@ChristiJunior @coolboymew Didn't Toby Fox try to use the same tactic with Undertale?
@coolboymew @ChristiJunior I knew he didn't call people bigots but I remember him encouraging bot flooding for some GameFAQs poll which is even worse.
@ChristiJunior @coolboymew Tumblr was involved as well. Remember, many of Undertale's fanbase comes from Toby's work on Homestuck which was popular among Tumblrites and the GameFAQs administration did confirm there were a bunch of bot votes for Undertale which is the only reason it was even nominated.
I do have a good feeling that Toby was involved though. Undertale really only got popular through his friends and followers on Starmen.net and Homestuck and they probably only shilled it because they will do anything for him. And I remember hearing that he was encouraging the poll flood (probably just to get more sales). Just shows how much of a talentless hack he is.
Huh? Is Undertale a bad game? I played it briefly and it seemed nice, considering it was made by a single person.
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@okabe_rintarou @ChristiJunior @coolboymew It's pretty mediocre. The only thing it has going for it is it's minigame based combat which is mostly just dodging bullets, so it's mostly just a bullet-hell with walking in between and a story that only appeals to the Tumblr crowd.
And being made by a single person isn't something special as it was made in GameMaker which is simple enough for even kids to use. If you want something impressive, CaveStory was made by one guy using nothing but C++ and DirectX. He even wrote his own music software and his own MIDI-like format. Even to this day, I still can't think of anyone that has topped that.
@ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @coolboymew @okabe_rintarou Toby Fox is a music composer and nothing more. You can clearly see his lack of skills when it comes to gameplay and level design. Most fans agree that level design is one of his weaknesses and the whole pacifist RPG idea isn't really original either. A lot of JRPGs had pacifist mechanics since at least Phantasy Star I.
The only game he made previously was some generic Earthbound ROM hack back in high school which makes me wonder why Nintendo has his game on their systems and has Sans as a Mii Costume in Smash when he made a huge no-no (creating a ROM hack of one of their games) in the past.
@PorkCow @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @coolboymew @okabe_rintarou It's spelled "Phantasy Star" the first game allowed you to talk out of fights for certain enemies. There wasn't any penalty for doing or not doing it, but a lot of games built off of that mechanic since then.
@PorkCow @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @coolboymew @okabe_rintarou Probably because Phantasy Star is a Sega IP and Sega isn't really known for JRPGs and it wasn't really used in that game. It only gave you hints and it was only in the first game, but there have been games that were inspired by this mechanic like Moon: Remix RPG Adventure which was an inspiration for Undertale according to Toby Fox.
And while not exactly the same genre you got Western RPGs like Deus Ex and Fallout where you could try a pacifist route except for maybe bosses. Granted, Western RPGs put more of an emphasis on player choice than Japanese RPGs, but still shows that the pacifist mechanics of Undertale aren't unique.
>you don't roleplay in JRPGs
>you don't roleplay in "western" RPGs
Heh, nothing personnel, but TTRPG and MU* master race reporting in
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I don't know. Undertale seemed innocuous and charming to me so far. And I know about Caves tory, I just don't think everyone has to be as hardcore like that when creating a game. TempleOS was created by just one person too, if you know what I mean.
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