@triodug I don't think any "real vegans/vegetarians" eat this garbage... I think it's mostly normies that have heard about veganism and vegetarianism through social media and are like hmmm maybe I should try this "vegan" thing... marketing at work lol
purely anecdotal but I live in a state that is heavily populated with vegan/vegetarian hippies and they are almost all about consuming organic, whole, and natural foods and the only "meat alternatives" they'd consume are seitan, tofu, etc