@mactonite@neckbeard.xyz @basadeskaiser @ArdanianRight @ConfederateHobo @Kazak @ew I think a state will inevitably control the economy even if a constitution prevents them (think about how many times the US violated it's own constitution). It's why I'm an ancap and not a minarchist.

@xianc78 @mactonite @ArdanianRight @ConfederateHobo @Kazak @ew the state is inevitable.
You can have good moral people who aim for something greater than life and material wealth and answer to heavena or you can have a crappy republic of individualistic bastards rules by sociopaths and cowardly parasites unwilling to lead soldiers themselves.
@basadeskaiser @xianc78 @ConfederateHobo @Kazak @ew @mactonite Not sure how you intend for good moral people to control the state. Absolute state power is a bad idea because the most conniving bastards are usually the ones who rise to the top.
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@ArdanianRight @basadeskaiser @mactonite@neckbeard.xyz @ConfederateHobo @Kazak @ew Well if there is a state, democracy is definitely not the solution. It will only lead to the plutocracy and artificial monopolies I mentioned earlier.

Monarchies are actually more libertarian than democracies. Good morals are passed from parents to children and you don't have hundreds of branches of government to deal with. Plus, you don't have a bunch of lite-socialists voting for welfare programs and socialized services. The most important thing is that unlike democracy where people think they can change their government through a useless vote, people would have an incentive to overthrow the current dynasty if it became corrupt in a monarchist state. I would honestly be a monarchist if ancap doesn't work out.

However, I think a stateless society run by voluntary association, free markets, and private property is the most ideal. No political system is shown to last forever though. Hell, right now, we are slowly drifting away from somewhat nationalist constitutional republics to globalist, technocratic, plutocracies.

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@xianc78 @ArdanianRight @mactonite @ConfederateHobo @Kazak @ew monarchies are sovereignty driven societies, highly hierarchical, therefore personal responsibility and personal excellece are a result from that and individual freedom is achieved by becoming a better servant to society.

Paradoxically monarchies and dictatorships are more free than the so called "free societies" where taxes and crime take most of your earnings, the police is your enemy, private businesses are trying to scam you and you can't even trust your neighbors. Let alone say women have vagina and men have penises.

Those who are willing to give up decency for the sake of liberty deserve none.
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