@sickburnbro @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @Gerfand That's why I'm an ancap and not a minarchist. There will be no government to lobby to.

@xianc78 @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @Gerfand And then people who share common goals will come together and .. ?

@sickburnbro @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @Gerfand Instantly be defeated by people defending their properties.

If you really think my ideology is bullshit, I will like you to know that Ireland was essentially ancap for a millennium (650 - 1650).

@xianc78 @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @Gerfand And what happened in 1650?

@sickburnbro @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @Gerfand At least it lasted longer than Nazi Germany.

@xianc78 @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @Gerfand Ok, and I don't like banana sandwiches, so what?

@sickburnbro @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @Gerfand It proves that my system is more stable than what these NigSocs want. Hell, it seems to be more stable than what we have now given that the US is about to collapse at any moment and it isn't even close to being 1000 years old.

@xianc78 @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @Gerfand The irony of you hating Nazi Germany is that the reason Ireland was able to stay the way it was is that it was just Irish people for all that time ( until it wasn't and .. surprise )

@sickburnbro @xianc78 @Gerfand @borzoi @coldacid @crisp what makes you think that natsoc Germany would not be as bad as the modern US, given that in 40s germans though that the US is too racist but it slowly changed because big gov does what big gov does

@incel_lolbert @Gerfand @borzoi @coldacid @crisp @xianc78 I hate to tell you, you aren't going to get away from big government, unless it manages to suicide itself, globally.

@sickburnbro @Gerfand @borzoi @coldacid @crisp @xianc78 it can get smaller tho

@incel_lolbert @Gerfand @borzoi @coldacid @crisp @xianc78 No, that's literally the cope that conservatives have been failing at for 50 years.

@incel_lolbert @Gerfand @borzoi @coldacid @crisp @xianc78 In a more general term, look at "On Power" by de Jouvenel. He basically catalogues the growth of government over 1000 years. I'll spoil it though: it doesn't look good.

@sickburnbro @Gerfand @borzoi @coldacid @crisp @xianc78 socialist block did fall apart tho, and china did reform

@incel_lolbert @Gerfand @borzoi @coldacid @crisp @xianc78 The trend of more government has not stopped.

@incel_lolbert @sickburnbro @Gerfand @borzoi @coldacid @crisp @xianc78 Because its nazi germany and not the US

@xianc78 @sickburnbro @coldacid @borzoi @crisp you just claimed that Ireland was Ancap tho, but said it was, its a really mostly occupied by Normans/English and the areas that were actually Irish, were Feudal, like every other European nation

@xianc78 @sickburnbro @coldacid @borzoi @crisp NOBODY IS SAYING THAT YOU NEED TO GO FULL NAZI WTF

@xianc78 @sickburnbro @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @Gerfand

"Ireland was libertarian. That kike Murray Rothbard told me and his evidence was anti-Irish propaganda claiming the Irish were 'lawless,' meant disparagingly."

Go drink more jew cum faggot

@xianc78 @sickburnbro @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @Gerfand in which way was medieval Ireland ancap, and how is it consistent with modern ancap principles?

@spooky1589 @xianc78 @Gerfand @borzoi @coldacid @crisp This isn't even worth addressing.

@spooky1589 @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @Gerfand @sickburnbro Courts and law were privatized and operated in a stateless manner and association was entirely voluntary. It was pretty complex for a stateless society.

http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/anarchism/faq.html#part17

@xianc78 @spooky1589 @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @sickburnbro I find funny how you totally not biased source leaves the actual Ancap society, and the close to Ancap ones that were not divided in multiple petty kingdoms that were not conquered by luck, like Ireland was.

@xianc78 @borzoi @coldacid @crisp @sickburnbro @spooky1589 And funny that the Irish one is the only one where guy doesn't provide any source...

@Gerfand @borzoi @coldacid @crisp @sickburnbro @spooky1589 @xianc78 Spoiler warning: He's wrong.

Or maybe he isn't, he never defined ancapism so maybe its just that in entails a stratified feudal system with unusual succession laws, who knows?

@WaitingForMajorian @borzoi @coldacid @crisp @sickburnbro @spooky1589 @xianc78 tbh, Celtics society are know for being "libertarian" in the tax sense, but its only that, like they were not a bunch of Ancaps, they still have kingdom, gov, and other stuff, for the Romans that is Anarchy.

So we that use the Roman view of the world, consider that anarchy, but if you look more in depth, you see that they were far away from Ancap, its more like a different society that maybe had no or less taxes, but still, there was a nobility, freeman, serfs or slaves, etc

Well the fact there was people considered "Freemen" shows that it was in constract to those who were not free

@xianc78 @sickburnbro @coldacid @borzoi @crisp Theres another thing, you forget, and ironically is showed by your Ireland argument + looking into history

How would you organize a military force, if you entire idea is to NOT have a "government" aka a body of people that rule over other people, and organize what they do to the extent they find necessary and/or possible?

@Gerfand @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @sickburnbro Private security would also act as mercenaries during a time of invasion.

@xianc78 @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @sickburnbro Mercenaries are innefective in modern, high scale warfare...

@xianc78 @sickburnbro @coldacid @borzoi @crisp @Gerfand
I mean Ireland was governed by the Celtic clan system rather than what you'd normally think of as a national government.
If that's what you're into I'd be down.
But then essentially every barbarian tribe that ever existed is also 'an-cap'

@sickburnbro @xianc78 @borzoi @coldacid @crisp oh you are wrong there, they just enforce "copyright analogue" w/ some company treaty.