@underwater@neckbeard.xyz @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @MoralPanic Or how about abolishing the state entirely, and letting everyone form voluntary communities based on whatever political or economic ideology they have.

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@Indigo @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @underwater@neckbeard.xyz @MoralPanic Not really. It's a right-libertarian/anarchist ideology in which people can voluntary choose their government or no government at all. It's essentially anarcho-capitalism rebranded as ancaps support the idea of creating voluntary governments via private property and contract law.

@xianc78 @ChristiJunior @underwater @MoralPanic Fair point, but Agorism is built on the idea of using black/grey markets to replace services the state "provides" with the ultimate goal of building anarcho-libertrain societies apart from the state, which would ultimately become unincorporated areas of their own.
These areas could potentially operate in harmony with statist-controlled areas and people would have the option to live voluntarily in or outside of the state.
Same basic end-point, some areas with government or withough government, "lines" being drawn based on property rights, and law enforcement being largely privately contracted, etc., just a different way of bringing it about.
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@Indigo @ChristiJunior@neckbeard.xyz @underwater@neckbeard.xyz @MoralPanic My only beef with agorism is that I don't think most people can run an illegal business without getting caught.

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@xianc78 @ChristiJunior @underwater @MoralPanic That is a good point, although I would posit that while most people probobly can't, some people can, and not everyone needs to practice counter economics, just enough to be a tangible competitive force to the state and thing evolve from there.
I'm attracted to Agorism conceptually because of all the Anarchist movements it's the one that actually has a tangible "strategy" built in, that isn't just "something, something, REVOLUTION!"
That said, I'm not committed enough to call myself an Agorist, I just find aspects of it appealing.
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