@alex Huh … of course everyone wants to stop distribution of child abuse imagery, but you have to wonder about “harmful content” and if it will start to capture random memes Facebook determines to be undesirable.

You can just write software to hold such posts in a queue, because in most jurisdictions, even possession of child abuse images is a strict liability crime.

Also, what if the image hashing gets things wrong and blocks people from uploading a summer beach photo because somehow the hash is similar to a known bad image?

Facebook is already hostile to smaller platform, and it makes me worry that smaller sites that start adopting this technology may be allowing tech overlords to censor their users without their knowledge.

@djsumdog Maybe. But I got rejected from Micro$oft PhotoDNA. Child porn is an existential threat to the Fediverse and we need some way to stop it.

@alex @djsumdog you're very aware of the problem with CP, and you're sympathetic with that problem, but would you candidly describe world leaders, intelligence agencies, and police forces as having the protection of children as their #1 concern?

There's no AI solution to Jussie Smollett getting attacked in public and attackers finding the guy's gleasonator.com account
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@apropos @djsumdog I think politicians will try to shut down the Fediverse because it’s something they can’t control. If there’s CSAM on it, they’ll be justified in doing so.

@alex @djsumdog @apropos How will they shut down the fediverse? You can’t ban a protocol.

@NEETzsche @alex @djsumdog they can go after every single registrar and host that a public fediverse server is on. They will inevitably require something like KYC for services, "know what your users are doing", mandating backdoors and monitoring for webhosts.

The internet is, unironically, a series of tubes, that (the senator's actual point:) exist in the real world under control by real people that can be arrested.

@apropos @djsumdog @alex Yeah I just don’t think that’s going to be a successful campaign.

@NEETzsche @apropos @alex Parler was knocked out because they’re full of dumb-fucks who trusted Amazon, but Daily Stormer was rejected from every major and minor webhost. They’re back up on a .su domain, but imagine if they didn’t have a backup?

There aren’t that many hosting providers really. And it wouldn’t be too difficult for legislators to say that every hosting provider (from BlueHost to Azure) must meet certain standards. ISPs could block all inbound traffic to residential IPs.

I know it sounds crazy, but look at the fucking world we’re in? We’re full on totalitarian for a virus with a >99% survival rate, governments in free nations are trying to mandate the most experimental drug in modern regulatory history and every basic Internet platform non-tech people know how to use are literally censoring and removing any videos, studies or scientific data showing dangerous/deadly side-effects.

@djsumdog @apropos @alex I know what’s going on and I’m seeing the backlash forming as-is. Biden’s vax mandate got shut down in the Fifth Circuit. Roe v. Wade is on the edge of being overturned. Kyle Rittenhouse was acquitted on all charges. My State passed constitutional carry and has explicitly banned vax mandates.

I’m actually pretty white pilled today. I don’t think an anti-speech bill under Biden will sail today. I think it’ll face so much undermining behavior that it will effectively just go away.

@NEETzsche @djsumdog @alex I don't think things are that bad right now either, but the not-bad status quo requires that people support the internet as it is. This speculation about the government going against the fediverse assumes that the support is gone.

@apropos I don’t assume that. I think that shitlibs might actually make an attempt on it today, I just think it’ll be ineffectual. Here’s how I imagine it happening:

AOC and blue check Twitter start posting screenshots from the fediverse and demanding that someone “does something” about it. Millions of boomercons and normies flock to “free speech Twitter,” except actually this time, because she’s screenshotting people saying nigger and faggot. They figure out how federation works after the fact.

Meanwhile, the shitlib machine is whirring up to “do something” about the fediverse, but by then the rightist support for it has also whirred up. There’s a massive political battle over this.

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@NEETzsche @djsumdog @apropos @alex

I bet they're thinking of the children. But maybe not in the way the meme would suggest.
@nerdman The fedi is basically just the web. It's like trying to stop ... the web ... I mean the web + rss + pingbacks + all those other failed independent ideas rolled into something that sorta half works but works better than anything before it.

But I agree with you, most people in congress have no idea how any of this underlying technology works. To quote one corrurpt and insane Alaskan senator, "The Internet is a series of Tubes!"

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>But I agree with you, most people in congress have no idea how any of this underlying technology works.

It doesn't matter. They're puppets of the shadow government who DO know how all this works.

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@xianc78 @djsumdog @apropos @alex @NEETzsche

There's no evil super villanous cabal. Probably just a stand alone complex.
@nerdman @xianc78 @NEETzsche @alex @apropos @djsumdog

There are multiple evil super villainous cabals with varying degrees of competence.
@Eris @NEETzsche @alex @apropos @djsumdog @xianc78

Not impossible. But very unlikely. People are just too dumb to hide things.

I mean supposedly the most genius villanous cabal is the jewish one. And they couldn't even figure out how to hid they have nukes hidden in this Dimona place or something. I think they were sold out by one of their own.

Nah. People are too stupid. Trust me I should know, I'm an expert at being stupid.
@nerdman @NEETzsche @alex @apropos @djsumdog @xianc78

You don't have to hide things because the people potentially discovering your cabal are people who are, as you say, stupid.
@nerdman @NEETzsche @alex @apropos @djsumdog @xianc78
I mean there are still people who think 9/11 was an inside job.
You don't have to be subtle you just need the slightest plausible deniability and you can be evil and rule the world.
The biggest lie they tell you is that ruling the world is hard.
@Eris @NEETzsche @alex @apropos @djsumdog @xianc78

Well it can't be THAT easy. Otherwise I would be ruling the world.

Aw shit. There I go blowing my cover.
@Eris @NEETzsche @alex @apropos @djsumdog @xianc78

Hmm. I see what you mean. Maybe you're right. So you have like the ADL, they're a cabal and not hidden. Just ignore when you call them a cabal.

That's kind of genius actually. As expected of my higher IQ brethren.
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